Indeed. Your sig needs updating BTW.

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If saints beat wakey next week and we beat Wigan then makes it a bit more comfortable for us!

I have to say I'm not confident we'll finish top 4. wakey and wigan both in good form and we're likely to be down on numbers next week due to suspension and injuries. Lose next week and we probably need to win our last 2 to finish in the 4

Do Wakefield and Wigan have to play each other yet?

Yes, we (Wigan) go to Wakey last game of 8's.

It could come to the last game of the S8s (Wakey v Wigan) to decide who gets 3rd and 4th.
We just need to make sure we win 2 games including Wakey and then there's no computation that sees us outside the top 4, our inferior points difference to all the other teams could end up costing us right at the death if we don't get the two wins. At the moment anything can happen, theoretically Salford could still make the top 4 at the moment.

This.

We beat Wigan and Wakey, both at home we are guaranteed 3rd

If we miss out it'll serve us right..and ultimately be a disappointing season given where we were last year and the squad we have. Sounds daft with a cup win but is a run of 3 games a measure of a good team? Because my pass has been poor value in fairness. Seen some sheer tripe tbh. Seen very few entertaining games. If we peak correctly and do make the final or better still win it all is forgiven granted. But if we fail to hit the 4 or if we sneak in and don't make the final how is our year measured?
Radford himself in and around the cup final has called GF the 'big 1' so I imagine him himself wouldn't be happy
Magic 45.0
Leeds near 60
Salford near 60
Hudds near 50
wire draw when 20 up
Doubled by Catalans
Only away win for Leigh in regular season are a poor reflection of what this team can do and have made hard work of it. We should be vying with cas for 1st still when you look at them.
Seems negative this post I know. But tbf I actually fancy us to win it. Just pointing out how it looks if we don't for any reason. I still say best 2 are us and Wigan. If we beat Wigan they're just about gone. If they miss the 4 I'm supremely confident vs every1 else

I still fancy Wigan for the grand final.
Heart says us and Castleford but home form is not good and think we will blow it

Some disappointing results, for sure but it's all about a top four place and then the Grand Final. Cas have been the outstanding team but the league format love it or hate it means you could win 30/30 but still not make Old Trafford.

Wigan lost 62-0 at Wakefield last year and still went on to be Champions. In 2014 Saints won the GF desite losing 40-10 at Rovers and 42-0 at Catalans and conceding 40+ at Warrington and Widnes.

It's the losses to Leigh and Catalans that will be to blame if we miss out. Personally not bothered after the cup success but the players will be. Still in with a shout mind.

Still in our hands so don't back against them. Big games bring out the best in us!

If you beat Wigan this week and Wakefield beat Saints, then saint's will be unable to make the top 4. If Castleford then beat Wigan in rd29 then both Hull and Wakefield finish in the top 4 regardless of the result between Hull and Wakefield

You said it sounds daft. You are right. Fair play for airing your opinion, but I have to challenge you on a few thing.

You say Leeds and Salford near 60. This is not just an exaggeration, it's just a lie.

You say your pass has not been value for money? Not sure what your barometer is for this. Is it quality of play, closeness of results ? Or would I be right in thinking you are only happy if Hull win by a clear 20 point?

You mention us surrendering a big lead at Warrington but conveniently do not mention the 22 point deficit we over came at Widnes.

You then round it off by not mentioning Cas as the stand out team of this season.

You mention the word tripe on your post. A good description of the majority of that post to be fair.

After years of false dawns, false promises, poor coaches, underperforming players, we are not just appearing in finals but winning them and still have a play off spot in our own hand. If that's a tripe return for your money, you need to have a word with yourself.

^^^This^^^

^^^seconded^^^

Thirded

fourthied by a happy clapper

Warrington won 3 cup finals in a short span but are still considered underacheivers and are now in the middle 8s.
Not for a second suggesting that will happen to us but iF we don't win the GF either this year or next are the cup wins enough?
Having had a barren spell, lots of all the above negatives, our level of expectation though raised is still relatively low. We aren't Wigan nor Leeds whose fans almost expect to be at the sharp end very good reason too.
just getting the Wembley monkey off our backs but retaining the cup is seen as a huge success and comparatively in the last 30 years it is.
Laat season we were talking about 'kickin on' bexause despite the wembley win there was a lwvel of dissapoinment at how the season ended. It was probably our best chance of the clean sweep.
So kicking on means more than just a cc win, our actual expectations are a bit confused tempered by history but still feeling dissapoinment of not fulfilling potential.
Our performances this season have gone from the sublime to the ridiculously awful, a point Lee Radford made as something he wanted to avoid. That inconsistency has being prevalent all season, one hopes we can indeed kick on in this last leg.
Not making the 4 would leave a bit of a bitter aftertaste, just as wilting last season did.
I'm up for the Wigan game and I think the outcome of the match could well define what happens thereafter.
Can't wait as it's a massive game but also nervous.

Are posters getting paid by the word?

It's in our own hands now. I've every confidence that this group of players can get the couple of wins needed, they've got a knack of winning when it really matters.

3rd place is important too. I wouldn't fancy going to Wheldon Rd in the playoffs & playing on that tiny pitch, I'd be more confident going to Headingley, especially with an empty Southstand.

Think we'd have as good a chance at Cas as at Headingley.
If we get the chance to go to either it's gonna take another massive effort.
Like the thought of packing out wherever it is with the Black and White army in a big semi.

We need a minimum of one : if Wakey beat Saints and then lose to FC and Wigan, a win over Wakey would see us qualify, if that doesn't happen then we need to win 2 out of 3 games to qualify.