Agreed.

If we do sign Welham what's the betting our starting centres next year will be him and Yeamo? That's got me depressed.

Maybe that's why AP and Radford are both on tonight - more than one body's work to spin that.

Joel Monaghan signed for Cas, so looks like Carney is definatley on his way out.

Good post Doom&Gloom. I agree that it wasn't an issue getting forward but rather what we did once we was there. I also agree with your comments on Houghton and Pryce but I wasn't personally disappointed with Sneyd as such. I just thought that, as with a lot of our players, he was inconsistent. There were times when I thought he was magnificent with his attacking play.

I think I just expected more from him.

As you say, he was quite inconsistent. Some stuff he does is top drawer, other stuff and I've got my head in my hands. I think he's got all the skills and is still fairly young. Conversions was an issue though - 2015 he missed 31.7% of kicks, 2014 for Cas it was 23.3% - so no idea what's caused that drop off.

It looked to me like he changed his conversion style as the season progressed. At the start of the season he started his run ups with his back to the sticks but then he seemed to change it to a sideways run up. Maybe it was just me but I thought he was more accurate with his original conversion style.

I can see it now. We needed to add "experience" to the ranks. He's a "proven" Super League centre. He fits the "professional" attitude we're trying to achieve.

Lifelong FC fan too, so the story goes.

I think that our problem is that all of our ball players played as individuals and seemed isolated much of the time. Whether that's because Pryce wasn't fit enough to maintain a performance throughout a game , Houghton's too knackered and/or doesn't really have that control element in his game , Abdul lacked experience , Sneyd is too unpredictable and Westerman didn't like/couldn't carry off his new role or because the coach wasn't able to bring them together , it's difficult to tell. Any one of them could look like a world beater playing in a different set up. Sneyd to a degree proved that with his previous form at Cas and Westerman may well do that at Wire. No one seemed strong or "clever" enough to genuinely lead and organise the team. Will the players coming in change that? Probably not , they may lead by example but if we are to improve we've got to find some cohesion and that will only come from a dominant and skilled organiser in my view. Who will that be? At the moment it's looking like Abdul will have to take it on which will be a tough ask or we're hoping for a renaissance from Leon.

Pryce at his best was more of a runner to Longs organising, very similar to Horne alongside Cooke. Never took me as a stand back and organise type player. Think he's tried to mould himself into that role more as he's got older but it makes him less effective.

When Pryce leaves, Abdul will be our SOH for years - talk of him moving to LF are wide of the mark IMO, at least until late in his career.

We can't be signing Welham because Radford doesn't like backs who can't defend.

I got told at East Hull on Saturday that Abdull has got the 6 shirt and Logan the number 4, numbers on shirts mean nothing but if true shows an indication of where LR wants Abdul to play next year?

Chase terminated at Salford.

Off to Leigh?

Sounds a bit extreme!

Can't fit him in under the cap??????

They don't seem to be bothered about it!

I think your right there I have herd Abdul is getting the 6 shirt this year and I can not see Welham signing for us, but he and his brother where FC fans and played for our academy before KRs

That's my point. If the RFL have told them the salary cap is live and that they have breached it, threatened a points deduction, they could well have renegued????

Its his kicking from wide out thats poor.Even on his good side still poor.
probably at Cas they scored more tries near the posts so his conversion rate was better

we would also be the laughing stock of Super League

Even worse, Hull

There was talk of Leigh signing players then loaning them out until the Super 8's started. Not sure how it would work, mind.