All it takes to crush this teams spirit are two quick tries within the first 10 mins, after that, heads drop and the opposition teams know the hard work is done

Ligi with two very harsh yellows this season IMO. MRP deemed it wasn’t even worth a look meaning they didn’t think it was late, yet he got a yellow.

Those two yellows have probably defined his season so far and perception towards his had been very negative.

Had he not had two yellows, I think fans would’ve realised how hard he actually works for the team. He’s taken almost 10% of our carries this this season which is mental.

Hopefully this week we have enough props to spell him and share the load so he can focus on cutting out the errors and now forcing it.

Think it’s a derby after a two big losses. We’re going to be bang up for it and surprise people. We’ll only lose by 20 this week

Prepared to go out on a limb here and predict that it will not be a repeat of the opening night shambles a few weeks back.

I predict we will score. Probably only once, but score we will. One of their players will trip and fall and we will stumble through the gap (in our usually slow-motion style obviously) and have the scoreboard clicking over.

It what is likely to be happening at the other end that I'm most worried about!! A one-way procession for the other 79 minutes most likely.

At last, the season is turning our way! We've hit the bottom and now we're on the way back! All will be fine from here on in, just you wait and see (well it will be, once we've got Friday's sacrificial humiliation behind us!!).

Ok where gonna get mullered. So here's my Baldrick plan..Let's go big and go back to basics. Simple plan.
Litten
Martin
Sutcliffe
Mac
Uni
Hoy
Smith
Ese
Brown
Pele
Ashworth
Sao
Lane
Subs
Staverly think 80 min a game catching him up
Brown
Scott
Houghton

Nearly the team i would select but we dont need Houghton on the bench,in fact i would leave him out as i dont think at the moment he is offering anything.That may be due to carrying an injury but when he came on at Hudds it all started to go pear shaped.
Charles would be the better option off the bench if we need to change things round at halfback

It would very much be chucking someone into the deep end however isn’t mitchy back to full fitness? His physical presence would at least give me a bit more confidence in the backs/wing

Might as well start with the best side and at least try and be in the game at half time, the last two games have been over around 20 minutes, so point in having the better players come on when the game is over.

Think Ockunbor will still be in the 17.

Having read Tony’s reasoning for the losses since July last year, I am even more fearful for the rest of the season.

I’ve never read so much garbage in all my life l, apart from Lee Radfords worst stuff.

Seriously have a read of what Uncle T says in the HDM today.

It’s all word tripe - a concoction of waffle meets Pictionary

I’m sorry but he’s talking complete bollox
We should have moved on from this issue in Week 6 of him being at the Club.
The players aren’t listening and he can’t enforce teaching.

That’s a recipe for the shoite we’ve had so far

Lest we forget, under Agar we trained brilliantly each week!

You are right but we had some great wins too and at least competed in most games . Let’s not forget he took the team to Wembley and when you look at what our replacement coaches have had available to sign players he actually didn’t do such a bad job , in my view . His teams were like him though, dour and unimaginative but as I said , usually competitive

Oh for the days of Todd Byrnr, lauaki and one metre Peter

I don't get this constant rambling of 'falling back into bad habits'

I counted that 11 of the 17 players in the squad on Saturday have only ever played first grade rugby at Hull FC under Tony Smith, so where have they picked these bad habits from?

For each of those we did at least have a Manu, Minnie Cheddars, Fitzgibbon, Ellis, Frank the Tank, O'Meley and almost a Michael Crocker.

Would love to be shopping in that pool again.

Miss being linked with the Civonceva's (spelling) and Jamie Peacocks of this world.

I'll even take a Matty Head or Adam Dykes.

This is definitely the worst squad we have since we moved to the KC, even in the dark Agar days we had some good players, some star SL players, not sure we have any as it stands.

There were some good times with Agar, that game v saints in the fog at Knowsley Road was one of my favourite away games, not knowing if we'd scored or not

If I was a casual fan, do we have any players you’d pay to watch like a French or a Field, the answer is no.

I dunno, wondering who is going to get carded this week keeps me on the edge of my seat.

Pele yellow card in the 37th minute.

As mentioned in here previously, Carlos looking at a significant period on the sidelines

Tindall touch and go for Friday

Barron with six weeks out with a fractured forehead (ouch).

good news at least that Fash, Walker and Mitchy are all nearing a return, with Trueman on track for early may.

Liam Moore is ref on Friday as he was for the home derby. Even more likely to see a card or two now.

Tom Grant video ref.

Hopefully Tony Smith red card after 80 minutes

What have they been doing in training, heading bowling balls?

And to think some on here was believing TS that Trueman could be back by round 1.

Think it was a head clash with Lennon Bursell in the reserves game at weekend. One that knocked them both out and also left Lennon with a broken nose (or similar type of injury). Must have been some force involved.