We’ve had no attacking identity for years, other than let the big guys smash their way through the middle.

Don’t see Saints moaning about losing their half back for the season. That’s because they’re well coached and have players who come in and slot into systems.

tell that to Mat Peet at Wigan
If Gaz was offered the job im sure he would take it

Matt Peet had a pretty extensive apprenticeship under McGuire and Wane.

As well as a stint in Union.

Plus he’s in an environment where good established processes are in place.

I answered the poster who said "The job of a Head Coach, is vastly different to an Assistant coach"
Peet was still an assistant irrespective of his background

Even you must see the difference in Ellis stepping up now (which he wont) and Peet.

Peet was a head coach all through the Wigan academy system at different age groups.

I'll strap myself in for this as you've got another bee in your bonnet

we played without most of the backs yesterday plus saints have had years to put things into place. Hodgson is now doing that

Hodgson your new whipping boy. Don't worry Griffin back this week

We are going through a rough spell. For me Wakey still really miffs me. Should have won that. IMO Hodgson got to be given more time. He's putting things in place but IMO needs backing for the moment. We can't keep swaping coach's . One thing for sure we do have 3 big games coming. We had half a team missing yesterday.

One suggestion not been mentioned. Plenty of top coaches on here? Maybe Hull should go down that path and hire one?

We've had 3 big games already, which would have cemented us in the top 5 but we've failed dismally and that's without half a team missing, so your point is rather moot.

I'd like to know what you think he's putting in place because it certainly isn't discipline or attacking structure.

I like Brett but I'm beginning to lose patience, as he can't eradicate the inconsistencies that still exist and there is no stamp on the team of his style of play.

To be fair Hodgson has had enough time to have implemented attacking structure, christ he even has KP as his assistant who was supposedly the attack coach.
Yes we have players missing and a depleted squad but last night showed just how poor our attacking structure is as we just don’t have any. Even Hodgson himself in interviews has said he leaves the plays and attack to the senior players.
There was no evidence Hodgson has done anything in terms of structures for attack. Without Connor we are totally bereft of any threat.

Can’t fault the effort last night but we have no direction on the field or as evident last night from the coach. The only thing we seemed to have structure in was our defence.

Just sack him then. Promote Ellis or Shenton. I'd give it losing couple of matches for calls for sacking. Look at the beginning of the season most had us down to struggle to get into the six. Especially a few on here. We are at best a mid table team. We are whatever our wrongdoings still in 5 th with it still in our hands. We aren't great and need players out and new blood in. Youngsters need bringing along. Am still prepared to let Hodgson take us forward. Maybe people should rein in on what they expect. We are not a top 4 teamATM.

Of topic but good boxing card on sky at 7.

dont think any of the posse will come back to you on that
2524 states he is putting things into place.Talking first team here what has he put into place?
The only coach who has put something into place in the first team is Gaz Ellis yet the posse say he is not qualified to be a head coach.
You dont have to be an experienced coach to put an attacking structure together.
If Gaz can put a defensive structure together i am sure given his experience as a player together with someone like Shenton he could do better than what we have now.
I am also certain he would command a lot more respect from the players and eradicate a lot of the indiscipline on the field we now see.

It was BH who has implemented the defensive structure.

He took a leaf out of Clearys book when they worked together at Wests.

No one on here is saying Hodgson is perfect, but some people take it too far.

Ellis didn't completely rule out one day being a head coach. He said he wasn't really sure and expressed a doubt whether he could tell players they were no longer required.

I guess it was a difficult question whilst the current head coach is under extra pressure. Ellis is too professional to say "Yes I'd really love to be head coach at some point".

Wasn't there a video once where he was miked up on the pitch and he wasn't backwards at coming forwards in bollocking his team mates.

Was it the 2016 CC semi against Wigan. You could hear him properly belting everyone in the tackle

Taking Hodgson out the equation for the moment can anyone honestly say they know what Purtill brings, does or has done in his time at the club?

Back on to Hodgson I’d agree to give him more time if there were real signs he’d implemented processes and structure to our game. What really hit home last night for me is that he has not learnt anything from last season. Inexperienced or not after losing Connor last season and seeing our season fall apart he should have made strides and put things in place so should we lose Connor again we would have structures in place to lessen the impact. Last night was a show in attacking threat even while Gale was on and previously without Connor.
BH just seems to have been reliant on the players in terms of any attacking play and openly admitted he leaves it to them.

We could have still been playing now and likely wouldnt have scored.

So for me is only right and fair that BH is questioned in regards to things in and around the coaching as it’s his job to ensure we are well prepared and well coached. Last night there was very little if anything to show we had any structured or set plays for getting pts on the board. This was summed up even more with the attempt at goal that was never really on.

I really hoped Hodgson would bring something to take us forward but I just don’t seem to think we are any further on 1st team wise.

Good post. Professional coaching is a results based business and looking at progress so far we haven't moved forward under Hodgson.
When he was appointed coach in 2020 he said the following about his aspirations for the club.

" Hull is a fantastic club with real pedigree and ambition so I am excited to be heading back and hopefully helping such a prestigious club achieve some success.
"Hull demands success and that is what I am about. With the staff and players we have and the support of the great fans there,I am really excited about what we can achieve together over the next couple of years."

Unless things really improve I believe he is on very shaky ground!

This ^^^^^^^

Hodgson trying to implement changes. Hands tied a bit. Youngsters in the best place we have been for years and this is the future as stated by Hodgson and Pearson. He's made mistakes. Who doesn't. Hindsight is marvelous. Most though Gale signing a good one and praised Hull and Hodgson for getting rid of Sneyd and getting Gale on board. I know I get accused of talking about injuries but we have been unlucky with them. We are going through a tough spell. What about if we try to get behind the lads they certainly need it

Exactly, why some want the coach sacking every time we lose a few games I’ll never know . No wonder other clubs laugh at us . When we beat Wigan , most were lauding hodgson . Fickle or what , 3 games later .

looking at that match on friday and whenever i watch a sl game,where did all the creativity and flair that the british game was noted for go.?hull player from 40 years ago mick crane as unfit as he was in a part time game,would have opened the wire defence up with ease.yet most so called full time pros havent a clue.

JJ