6 players from the Hull area have been selected for England under 16's. unfortunately 3 of them signed for Cas, what a disaster the COHA has been, lets hope it doesn't set us back too many years.

Agree Dave, good riddance to that particular venture.

signed 11 Hull lads?

The thing I like it now gives the lads 50 to 60 places to play at a good standard of rugby.
Due to no Sports mail or Humberside Amateur media pages, I have no idea how many schools still ply the game.
I know there is no works league don't know of any clubs or pubs run teams, it now looks like any not very good clubs have gone to the wall but these often throw up a good player a natural leader.

I was talking to a couple the other days whos son was about to sign his first proper contract. Theyed toured the clubs, Wigan, Saints led the way in how they were treat - FC was one of the worse, and this family where all FC fans. They all had more positive things to say about Netherton than anyone at FC who got a loads of kids down but apparantly didnt even know who they where or what position they played and the coaches just stood there on their phones - very unprofessional was how they described FC - Cas where miles better too

It’ll be 2 or 3 more years before we really know. But the period immediately before that doesn’t look too brilliant in terms of delivery. Looking at last week’s derby teams there was only Lawler and Fash who were local and in their earlyish 20s. Add in Abdull, and that’s pretty much it for SL, I think.

Some bad luck, and sad outcomes for lads like Joe Wardill and Jansin Turgut, but it does look to have been a lean spell for the two independent academies for whatever reasons.

Got to worry about the 18 yr old upwards , with only a reserve team after the u18s (could be wrong) but not sure a young 18yr prop will be ready for a competitive reserve league. I liked the u23 and been allowed to use some senior players

I think that’s pretty much what we’ll get, but mostly u21. I think people expecting the reserves to be on a similar level to the Championship or to be to SL what Australian reserve grade is to the NRL will be disappointed.

Completely agree. Similar to anyone thinking the biggest clubs won't still cherry pick the best talent from others' reserves.

Do we know who the 3 from the coha have signed for next season?

2 for Hull FC. 1 unsigned as yet.

Cheers, how are the respective squads shaping up?

Wigan have just beaten Hull academy 82-0. Why is it that the Hull side are so uncompetitive at the moment? (Honest question - not here to provoke!)

How long have you got?

... best ask on the hkr forum as well as it's a joint academy, and is due to be disbanded at the end of the season.

they (KR) paraded something like 43 players before games recently, the article I read (think it was in the HDM) "bigged up" Hudgell's belief in youth, made me chuckle.

I see we (and Rovers) are being allowed only 15 scholarship players for both the under-15 and under-16 level teams. Every other club is allowed 20.
A RFL punishment for disbanding COHA, perhaps?

It does appear that way, and perhaps for Hudgell and Pearson saying, and in not a very veiled way, the RFL are "not fit for purpose", if anyone sees a 70's blazer in the charity shop, I may get a place on the RFL board. Torronto is great, m'kay...

They only have 1 team each so it's a squad of 30 to work with over 8 games I believe.

If they have more all it does is affect the grassroots club's.

They still get to have other players in development squads plus they monitor in other ways

Hutchie is right that having more scholarship players does increase the risk of affecting community clubs (missing training, matches postponed, injuries etc).

There is probably an argument for a readjustment to what we do with 14/15 and 16 year olds but that's for another time.

Under the current system it is ridiculous that Hull and Rovers are put at a disadvantage. To compete with Wigan, Saints etc we need to start producing more players than them but they are expecting us to do that with less kids in our system. It isn't going to happen.

It will also result in some lopsided scorelines potentially. Scholarship match day squads are usually 20 players. Hull or Rovers could have 3/4 injuries at under 16s level and therefore have to field 9 under 15s players at places like Wigan who could potentially field 20 under 16 lads. Massacre.
If we had 20 players at each age then we would only need to put 3/4 young lads on the bench in that scenario.

Needs looking at.

I don't think people realise how big Wigan Borough is - a population of 324,650 in 2018.

Please forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand the point you are making.

They should be allowed more scholarship players than Hull and Rovers?
They should produce more players than Hull and Rovers?

i think he's just pointing out that sometimes people percieve wigan as a small town and wonder how they knock out all the young players, and he's saying wigan has more population to draw on than some people think. nothing more than that

Correct.

Hull and East Riding have a combined population in excess of 800,000...

… nearer 600k, over an area of 930 square miles, wigan borough is 77 square miles.