I posted this on our Cas Vegas thread a few mins ago, didnt realise there as a " Our Forwards" thread, so maybe its better placed on here.

I don't think we were far off v Cas. The backs were well matched and their forwards probably just edged it. We still had several chances on their line but could not find away over, sometimes a little guile was needed when brute force was not working, though heaven knows Jake tried his best on that front.
If their forwards did edge it then they were really only up against Taylor and Westerman and a Danny tackling machine, so guess under those circumstances you could say it was a massive effort from Taylor and particularly Westy who did amazing considering he had to be ring rusty.

The rest of the pack can hang their heads for me, Litten apart. But oh how I wish Danny would just please please run at the line more, just to give their front markers something to think about.

Roby is a masterclass in that area, what will he do ? Run at the teeth ? run wide and straighten? simply pass, run past a dummy and then pass, kick over and chase ? kick long for territory ?
He has the defence thinking everytime. Because you never really know.
I just dont think Danny puts that same doubt in the oppostions mind. So they shape up for Danny pass option every time and usually they're spot on. His long kicking is quite good but its not an attacking threat in the last 3rd. Rant over.

We have to hope we take confidence into our next game and we build on our positives and make a real game of it, win or Lose.

Leeds employed a strict contract regards pay structure and recruitment from within their academy but that’s been found out recently with 3 yoyo seasons. They’ve had to go searching for players Furner wanted and splash the cash, hence having to offload, see if they break the cap????

Wingers getting bundled over it’s part of their position some times they recess pass that should have gone back inside or it’s poor and in the process of catching it unbalanced them. As to Litten kicking on the first Shaul was crying out for it to happen. Unfortunately he kicked it to much to the right and was eventually easily tackled. If it had been straighter Shaul should have collected and who knows. It’s inventive play just unlucky. Our main problem is not invention but our forwards, and completion in the finals,at of the ball.

When we bundle someone into touch it's great defensive play, when we're bundled into touch it's dumb rugby.

I would add stupid penalties we give away every match which seem to cost us dearly and mistakes like not playing the ball correctly or moving off the mark when playing the ball

I get your point about stupid penalties but hardly anyone plays the ball correctly and always push forward at the play the ball which results in conned penalties. A case in point was Cas playing the referee by being offside, actually stood metres in front at the play the ball and throwing the ball away in the tackle which resulted in at least 2 penalties. The glaring one for me was Miloudi held up over the line by 3 players and McShane came over the top, flopping and clearly stripped the ball. You make your own luck in life but it’s a killer when people deliberately look the other way.
A bit of luck or bounce of the ball and we’d have 2 from 2 and a little less hand wringing.

Taylor banned for upto 3 games according to HDM.

Scott Taylor (Hull FC) - Grade B Dangerous Contact - 1 Match Penalty Notice
Scott Taylor (Hull FC) - Grade C Dangerous Contact - 2 Match Penalty Notice

That'll be us bottom of the table after 5 games then.

Yet poster boy Blake Austin doesn't get a caution.

It's just going from bad to worse,think Taylor was the only one charged.Feel sorry for Taylor,due to our recruitment the season has just got a lot worse

I'm Guessing it was the thing on Paul McShane? What a joke

Darnell McIntosh (Huddersfield) - Grade A Dangerous Contact - 0 Match Penalty Notice
Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan) - Grade A Dangerous Contact - 0 Match Penalty Notice

Your point being?

Thats because he didnt do anything

Three offences in his first two games, doesn't strike me as an angel.

We seem to have bad luck following us around at the moment!
Worrying times ahead !

For the last couple of seasons, far too many match bans have been handed out for literally nothing ie the Taylor tackle of McShane for a start. Nothing in it whatsoever, yet receives two match ban for it?! I get the RFL clamping down on high tackles, just like the NFL has started to do with so many concussions. But for a player falling awkwardly while a couple of tacklers are on top of him is laughable.

Think the next 3 games will show us the errors in our recruiting over the last year. Painfully thin in the front row. Any injuries on top of this and we're stuffed

A ban for taylor is a disaster for us. Seasons gone to rat shiit already. Let's hope that london don't win many more games

Apparently Joel attacked his elbow with his head.

Fwiw I never saw Taylor do anything worthy of a ban, seems harsh

i can see your point but its the HKR game i was talking about and when you see the replay there was no offence

But Tompkins did for falling into him?

Fairly obvious I'd have thought, 2 other players with "dangerous contact" charges, but not deemed dangerous enough to warrant any bans.

Taylor apart and without him we are playing Super League with a Championship quality front row.
Then if we look at the bench we have two promising young players in Lane and Litten the rest are not Super League quality.