When Abdull first went on loan I would maybe have agreed, but he has played well by all accounts and we have since extended his contract, which I dont think we have done just for the sake of getting a better transfer fee. I think he is in our plans, just not sure where.

What? We played with a ball type loose and were crap. Weve gone to a third prop type and won a trophy and had the most successful year in our SL history. It's a style that obviously suits us.
That said I think Hadley could do that role by being a little of both. But my preference going forward would be hadley as starting 2nd. Mini off the bench. I'd start with Taylor Bowden as props. Watts at loose as 3rd prop as he could pace himself a bit more than at outright prop thus having more mins on field which is better for us as he's a more Xfactor player than our other props. Plus has nice hands to make a pass when needed. Impact player brought in to come off the bench with mini. 2 players capable of changing a game through impact and energy a bit like cas with moors and lefeo

Completely agree.

I've just made a similar comment on the Westerman thread re Abdull vs Westy, ball playing 13 vs workhorse (before I'd read this thread). I think a lot of us get quite nostalgic at the thought of a ball-playing 13 as we've been spoiled in the past with the likes of Knocker & Smith.

Hadley is tailor-made as a starting 2nd rower, and being spelled by mini off the bench for his impact sounds ideal to me.

Think the days of a Knocker Norton or Harry Pinner type of loose forward are long gone.
Think we'll look at developing Shaul into the third pivot, backed up by Connor.
Would like to see Hadley back but there seems to be something going on there.
Also can't see Abdul back. Like I said on another thread - juries still out for me.
What we deffo need though is an impact forward.

Dont think we'll ever ever make a pivot out of Shaul. But while we've found a formula of dominant forwards for Sneyd and kelly to work off we're doing ok. As I think they're two of the best halves at working off that kind of platform. Also in connor and Carlos we've almost 2 halves playing centres. Which i would keep and move Griffin to wing and retain Tala to keep that dominant start to sets. Sika is a tidy ball man for a 2nd and Hadley is known for his good hands. So we've plentry of outlets tbf

As I said in a previous post under the current way we play no it wouldn't work, that's not radford's style. however I think with the halves we have I think having a SOL or Westerman type 13 (As in the Westerman at Warrington) if used in the correct way would enhance us.
I would honestly rather see hadley in this role as he's a better passer than Westerman and can cover DH if need be. this then means we don't need to carry a lightweight forward like Washbrook to speel or cover for DH and can go with 4 big forwards on the bench for certain games so in fact we are not losing the firepower at all, we just have a player capable of covering a la Washbrook who is younger, faster, can pass and tackle better and the possible flexibility of a ball playing 13 as Washbrook was going to be in his early days.
In fact Thompson was used in this way when he got his start ahainst St.Helens from what i could see.
as for the most successful season, well no it wasn't.
We won one trophy by the skin of our teeth a trailed away badly thereafter with big forwards that were shot to pieces.
Having a mix of mobile forwards and some grunt is most desireable especially during the warmer weather and for better overall endurance.
I don't see it happening but I think a ball handling 13 if we change how we play makes us a better team.

It was far better than Gentles two 6th place finishes that you eulogised about while shouting from the rafters to get rid of Radford.
Nobody listened to you thank fook.
We could well have been up creek without a paddle if anybody had.

I think Seb did

Sod the expense.
He's started saving up for Wembley again just in case.

With the squad we had, a monkey should have got us to at least the semi-finals and a top 4. that wasn't down to Radford for the most part, thinking it was then you're deluded. A better coach like Gentle and we'd have won the treble.
As i keep saying, Radford has reaped some proper investment (Actually an over the cap squad last year) and the youth system, Gentle had none of that and had a shocking injury list and a team full of novices in critical positions. That in his first two seasons he exceeded what Radford did by a long, long way without any of these advantages just goes to show you know fook all.
genetle didn't get us into a relegation battle and not playing the direst rugby for 20 years or are those convenient facts ones you'd like to overlook?

Has Radford improved, yes he has, does he deserve plaudits, yes he does, but his first two years he was fooking clueless and a turd of a coach that destroyed the faith of many fans and brought to the brink of a disaster for the club.

I don't care who listens, i can write what i like on this forum and abusive neanderthals like your ilk can jog on.

Damn Dave, I was about to highlight the exact same thing! Bumpy had zero credibility already before that post - now I'm thinking he needs sectioning!

Oh the irony!!!!

I thought you didn't like people posting abuse?

I can't really see where my post was personally abusive, but this is.
If I wasn't obviously aware you have some serious issues then I would consider duly reporting you through the moderation process.

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"With the squad we had, a monkey should have got us to at least the semi-finals and a top 4. that wasn't down to Radford for the most part, thinking it was then you're deluded. A better coach like Gentle and we'd have won the treble. As i keep saying, Radford has reaped some proper investment (Actually an over the cap squad last year) and the youth system, Gentle had none of that and had a shocking injury list and a team full of novices in critical positions. That in his first two seasons he exceeded what Radford did by a long, long way without any of these advantages just goes to show you know fook all. genetle didn't get us into a relegation battle and not playing the direst rugby for 20 years or are those convenient facts ones you'd like to overlook? Has Radford improved, yes he has, does he deserve plaudits, yes he does, but his first two years he was fooking clueless and a turd of a coach that destroyed the faith of many fans and brought to the brink of a disaster for the club. I don't care who listens, i can write what i like on this forum and abusive neanderthals like your ilk can jog on.'" I like how you've gone from calling Radford a 'turd' to 'turd of a coach', trying to pull the wool over our eyes that you weren't being personal. Luckily, the internet never forgets, and a quick google search finds the turd comment. retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?p ... #p18071521 Of course, it's other people who are abusive, not you Tony. Calling someone a "Neanderthal" is a compliment I take it? You have for whatever reason a personal dislike for Radford which goes way over him just coaching FC. Remember that time you made up a lie that he was bullying Jamie Shaul? Then there was your petition trying to get a man sacked from his job, classy. You've never had the bottle to come out and apologise or admit you were wrong. Even now, after what will be one of the most memorable years you're focusing on the negatives. I'll just leave you with this:

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"With the squad we had, a monkey should have got us to at least the semi-finals and a top 4. that wasn't down to Radford for the most part, thinking it was then you're deluded. A better coach like Gentle and we'd have won the treble. As i keep saying, Radford has reaped some proper investment (Actually an over the cap squad last year) and the youth system, Gentle had none of that and had a shocking injury list and a team full of novices in critical positions. That in his first two seasons he exceeded what Radford did by a long, long way without any of these advantages just goes to show you know fook all. genetle didn't get us into a relegation battle and not playing the direst rugby for 20 years or are those convenient facts ones you'd like to overlook? Has Radford improved, yes he has, does he deserve plaudits, yes he does, but his first two years he was fooking clueless and a turd of a coach that destroyed the faith of many fans and brought to the brink of a disaster for the club. I don't care who listens, i can write what i like on this forum and abusive neanderthals like your ilk can jog on.'" I like how you've gone from calling Radford a 'turd' to 'turd of a coach', trying to pull the wool over our eyes that you weren't being personal. Luckily, the internet never forgets, and a quick google search finds the turd comment. retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?p ... #p18071521 Of course, it's other people who are abusive, not you Tony. Calling someone a "Neanderthal" is a compliment I take it? You have for whatever reason a personal dislike for Radford which goes way over him just coaching FC. Remember that time you made up a lie that he was bullying Jamie Shaul? Then there was your petition trying to get a man sacked from his job, classy. You've never had the bottle to come out and apologise or admit you were wrong. Even now, after what will be one of the most memorable years you're focusing on the negatives. I'll just leave you with this:

Anyone want to see "chase" in a FC shirt next season (might had played his last game for cas with what allegedly happened at featherstone v Halifax last night)

Even with Radders excellent man management I'd go nowhere near Rangi. Clearly just a thug who's not used to being told he can't have what he wants which you see with his on pitch dummy spits. Needs a good clip round the ear, hope he caught one.

What 'allegedly' happened?

don't think it'll last long being put here, all over twitter.

This is fairly harmless... www.totalrl.com/castleford-issue ... eculation/

This is fairly harmless... www.totalrl.com/castleford-issue ... eculation/

I've just been reading that Jordan Adbul has NOT being offered nor signed an extension to his Hull FC contract. Apparently this was told by JA to the person stating this on FB.

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I've just been reading that Jordan Adbul has NOT being offered nor signed an extension to his Hull FC contract. Apparently this was told by JA to the person stating this on FB.'" You'd best email the club to tell them they lied then: www.hullfc.com/news/2017-03-17-duo-extend-deals

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I've just been reading that Jordan Adbul has NOT being offered nor signed an extension to his Hull FC contract. Apparently this was told by JA to the person stating this on FB.'" You'd best email the club to tell them they lied then: www.hullfc.com/news/2017-03-17-duo-extend-deals

Quote ="DGM"You'd best email the club to tell them they lied then: www.hullfc.com/news/2017-03-17-duo-extend-deals'" Law of averages says he has to get something right sooner or later.

Quote ="DGM"You'd best email the club to tell them they lied then: www.hullfc.com/news/2017-03-17-duo-extend-deals'" Law of averages says he has to get something right sooner or later.

I think you'll find that you very much cannot do that. There are rules you agreed to (the AUP) and these cover legal issues too. Try writing "what you like" and see how long a) it stays on here and b) you stay on here.

That applies to everyone by the way