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| Certainly Kear wasn't given the time that Agar and latterly Radford have. Neither was Sharp nor, I would argue, Gentle.
I understand Kear's issues related to the culture within the club (drinks with the lads?) and certain senior players including the legend Swain didn't like that. But I do think the team spirit and cohesion since Kear's exit has been our downfall.
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| Chris Chester has everything your club needs and more job done.
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| Could it be that Radford needs a better coaching team behind him?
Don't think it's helped having inexperienced assistants as well as an inexperienced first team coach.
Probably all too late now anyway.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We have 18 games before the split and we probably need to win half of them to be in the top 8.'"
Why bother Jake, we will more than likely do sweet footballers if we did make it. Its not often I get despondent, but why is it we seem to get good players, yet do nothing? Widnes scored for fun, we were made to look clowns. No I didn`t go to the match, I armchaired it, which made it lucky that I didn`t get "we can see you sneaking out" when I went to the kitchen 15 minutes from the end to put the kettle on.
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| Pearson stands on the precipice as he watches his masterplan come to fruition. He must be very very worried right now as his and the clubs stock look decidely rocky at this moment in time.
If this doesn't turn around sharpish and we have to start again if Radford fails Pearson is fooked nine ways to Sunday. The consequences for him and more importantly the club cannot be underestimated as to how dire things could become.
Please Radford do facking something to get us going because us fans are losing faith rapidly, if you can't then do what you said you would do all along and jack ot in. Frankly the whole coaching set up and lack of professionalism needs addressing.
Get someone from outside of RL for me, someone like Clive Woodward as director of rugby to sort the shat from top to bottom.
Pearson has and always will be part of the problem despite his 'investment'
Oh yeah, we need a proper CEO who can sort out whats going on...not the DJ with a degree in jpurnalism
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| Quote ="Rover105"Chris Chester has everything your club needs and more job done.'"
Adam walker doing enough for yours
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Pearson stands on the precipice as he watches his masterplan come to fruition. He must be very very worried right now as his and the clubs stock look decidely rocky at this moment in time.
If this doesn't turn around sharpish and we have to start again if Radford fails Pearson is fooked nine ways to Sunday. The consequences for him and more importantly the club cannot be underestimated as to how dire things could become.
Please Radford do facking something to get us going because us fans are losing faith rapidly, if you can't then do what you said you would do all along and jack ot in. Frankly the whole coaching set up and lack of professionalism needs addressing.
Get someone from outside of RL for me, someone like Clive Woodward as director of rugby to sort the shat from top to bottom.
Pearson has and always will be part of the problem despite his 'investment''"
I think he'll throw his hand in. Then we'll see how much of the "problem" he was with multiple buyers waiting in the wings. Or otherwise.
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| Everyone gas their price and if Pearson is serious enough he will dangle a carrot over darryl powells head.
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| The problems are all of his own doing right from before he even actually handed over money to the Hetheringtons. But your lack of understanding won't give you any insight with regard to that will it or will you just play obtuse again?
The club was ready to be transformed from a sleeping giant, the ingredients have pretty much always been here, amazing loyal fans, a fantastic stadium and local players with talent/desire.
Throwing money at something is not enough, he's made mistake after mistake after mistake and has being nothing more than a money man out of his depth with respect to running a business successfully. He's shown to be aloof, a teller of untruths, deceitful, unable to accept.blame, unable to swallow his pride unanle to manage people, unable to identify/employ the correct employees to restructure the business and take it foward (repeatedly). He's proven that he'd rather do things on the cheap in too many facets of the business and that has come home to roost not just with Radford but many other aspects too.
We are where we are not due to lack of spending up to the maximum salary on players but due to so many other reasons and they all start and end with Pearson.
If he walks away/pulls the plug on funding sure we'll be in a worse state but my point about Pearson being part of the problem is still valid.
Niether have I said we cannot change things/turn things around or that the season is done nor even called for Radford to be sacked, just so you are clear and don't have reason to moan for no reason and not comprehend okay Mrs B?
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| Disagree, still think pearsons the man for the job, top bloke who is trying everything he can to make hull a top team,
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Everyone gas their price and if Pearson is serious enough he will dangle a carrot over darryl powells head.'"
Is that some sort of sick euphemism?.......Shame on you!
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| Quote ="hull2524"Disagree, still think pearsons the man for the job, top bloke who is trying everything he can to make hull a top team,'"
Almost 5 years down the line and we are not really anywhere closer to winning anything as it stands from tonights performance.
We almost did but then AP soon saw that upward trend wasnt right so just knocked us back 3 more years at least.
Top bloke, I don't understand how/why you say that? what for him making an investment to make money, he's a businessman NOT a benefactor (and has every right to make money) but so far he has being unsuccessful and that is down to his lacking in too many aspects.
I couldn't' care if he's a grumpy miserable hard nosed bstd if he's fair to his staff is open and honest and knows what he's doing, sadly he isn't (well not enough to succeed) and that reflects in how we've performed.
It's my opinion it really isn't personal at all just exacrly what I've seen/read/heard either first hand from him making statements/his actions or through club press releases and on field performance which ultimately sum up how he/we have done.
Can we still succeed under Pearson, it's possible but how long the fans are willing to keep supporting him/the club may well dictate the chances of that. Again that's downnto Pearson and his decisions.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"The problems are all of his own doing right from before he even actually handed over money to the Hetheringtons. But your lack of understanding won't give you any insight with regard to that will it or will you just play obtuse again?
The club was ready to be transformed from a sleeping giant, the ingredients have pretty much always been here, amazing loyal fans, a fantastic stadium and local players with talent/desire.
Throwing money at something is not enough, he's made mistake after mistake after mistake and has being nothing more than a money man out of his depth with respect to running a business successfully. He's shown to be aloof, a teller of untruths, deceitful, unable to accept.blame, unable to swallow his pride unanle to manage people, unable to identify/employ the correct employees to restructure the business and take it foward (repeatedly). He's proven that he'd rather do things on the cheap in too many facets of the business and that has come home to roost not just with Radford but many other aspects too.
We are where we are not due to lack of spending up to the maximum salary on players but due to so many other reasons and they all start and end with Pearson.
If he walks away/pulls the plug on funding sure we'll be in a worse state but my point about Pearson being part of the problem is still valid.
Niether have I said we cannot change things/turn things around or that the season is done nor even called for Radford to be sacked, just so you are clear and don't have reason to moan for no reason and not comprehend okay Mrs B?'"
My point was that I think he'll give it up this year. I've called out plenty of what I perceive as his mistakes before. In this scenario I guess we'd see what we've been missing. It may not be a sine Pearson utopia, though.
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| Has he been sacked yet?
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| Not read the last 9 pages, but it's hard to stick up for Radford now, that was as bad a performance for 70 minutes as I've seen in the last few years, doubts have started creeping into my mind about Radford during the Wigan game with his selection and use of subs, which he got all wrong.
Not really sure what the answer is, as if he gets the sack, who will come in and it's a case of starting all over again.
Bit fed up and getting a bit bored with Hull.
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| Backs are too slow and used as forwards, we have a great pack, so why are the first few drives always by our backs, look at the stats, our forwards aren't doing enough work.
Whats happened to our attacking play that we saw in the first two games and pre season, last night all we did was try and barge our way over. The set just before there last try at halftime was embarrassing.
Last night and and the Cas game we have got a lesson in good halfback play, I have always stuck up for Sneyd, but he just isn't doing it (Although it isn't helped with snail wingers), but we don't have anyone better.
Use of subs, why leave Frank on for so long when he has been injured and take off Manu and Ellis off.
Our defence has been good the last few years, what has happened this year, everytime we a team gets near our line they look like scoring.
Dont get me started on handling kicks.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not read the last 9 pages, but it's hard to stick up for Radford now, that was as bad a performance for 70 minutes as I've seen in the last few years, doubts have started creeping into my mind about Radford during the Wigan game with his selection and use of subs, which he got all wrong.
Not really sure what the answer is, as if he gets the sack, who will come in and it's a case of starting all over again.
Bit fed up and getting a bit bored with Hull.'"
Its not a case of starting again, to be fair on Radford, hes built a decent squad. We just need someone to coach them
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| Quote ="Dave K."Backs are too slow and used as forwards, we have a great pack, so why are the first few drives always by our backs, look at the stats, our forwards aren't doing enough work.
Whats happened to our attacking play that we saw in the first two games and pre season, last night all we did was try and barge our way over. The set just before there last try at halftime was embarrassing.
Last night and and the Cas game we have got a lesson in good halfback play, I have always stuck up for Sneyd, but he just isn't doing it (Although it isn't helped with snail wingers), but we don't have anyone better.
Use of subs, why leave Frank on for so long when he has been injured and take off Manu and Ellis off.
Our defence has been good the last few years, what has happened this year, everytime we a team gets near our line they look like scoring.
Dont get me started on handling kicks.'"
Dave, I heard his absence last week was nothing to do with being "injured".
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| When (and before) Pritchard arrived his Instagram account was buzzing - updates all the time.
Last two weeks? Nada. Not a single post. And he really did not look himself at all last night. Where's his trademark grin gone?
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| If anyone was in any doubt about our coach now is the time to wake up. We were completely outcoached last night for the third week running.
Betts who is not exactly the most well thought of coach outside of Widnes had us totally sussed last night. Slight change in his plans as Radford decided to mix the pack up a bit. Why the hell he had Mini on the bench at the start I would love to know. As a result Mini never got going once he was on.
I think Radford thought he'd be clever by having Frank on from the off "they won't be expecting that, aren't I clever chaps".
We are woefully poor on the flanks. Logan (has great potential) but christ he is NOT Yeaman. He shoots out of defence so many times. Has done all season and YET he has not had it knocked out of him yet. Who is coaching him? This in turn makes his winger look poor.
From the expensive play of yes a friendly and then Salford and Catalans we now have a 5 drives and a kick policy. As has been said Bradford circa 2002. Awful awful awful.
Last night showed what we can expect in the summer when the grounds are hard and fast. We will be shockingly exposed due to this inane policy of having 6ft giants across the park who are only capable of battering through the middle.
The only way to prevent that from happening is to have a dramatic change of policy. That team last night were carrying out the instructions of their coach. Pure and simple. Its his tactics that are being implimented. Betts saw through them. Wane and his kids saw through them and Powell once again outfoxed him. I can guarantee we wouldn't do to Catalans and Salford what we did to them a few short weeks ago now.
Mr Pearson does not have many people queing up to buy his club so he only has one option. That is to use what he has delivered to the best of its ability. He has listened to the fans. He has delivered a good squad. All he needs now is a coach to bring the best out of them. So long as he persists with Radford we will forever fall short.
I won't even comment on players locking the coaches out of the dressing room. That should not happen at any level of any sport. Disgrace.
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| ...... Quote ="Gareth Ellis""Ultimately we are the ones that go out there.
They give us all the tools to go out there and perform and we didn't do it last night.
We didn't do anything we spoke about in the build-up and that's something we need to address."'"
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| Quote ="ccs"......'"
He could have stopped at "We didn't do anything..."
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| Quote ="mk_fc"He could have stopped at "We didn't do anything..."'" Kind of loses the point he was making though.
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| Who do you drop for the Wakey game, based on last night could be a few?
Sneyd, but we have no one else
Logan but we have no one else
I'd certainly look to bring in Reece Dean who has a bit of zip about him, in place of Abdul who looked lost last night.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"If anyone was in any doubt about our coach now is the time to wake up. We were completely outcoached last night for the third week running.
Betts who is not exactly the most well thought of coach outside of Widnes had us totally sussed last night. Slight change in his plans as Radford decided to mix the pack up a bit. Why the hell he had Mini on the bench at the start I would love to know. As a result Mini never got going once he was on.
I think Radford thought he'd be clever by having Frank on from the off "they won't be expecting that, aren't I clever chaps".
We are woefully poor on the flanks. Logan (has great potential) but christ he is NOT Yeaman. He shoots out of defence so many times. Has done all season and YET he has not had it knocked out of him yet. Who is coaching him? This in turn makes his winger look poor.
From the expensive play of yes a friendly and then Salford and Catalans we now have a 5 drives and a kick policy. As has been said Bradford circa 2002. Awful awful awful.
Last night showed what we can expect in the summer when the grounds are hard and fast. We will be shockingly exposed due to this inane policy of having 6ft giants across the park who are only capable of battering through the middle.
The only way to prevent that from happening is to have a dramatic change of policy. That team last night were carrying out the instructions of their coach. Pure and simple. Its his tactics that are being implimented. Betts saw through them. Wane and his kids saw through them and Powell once again outfoxed him. I can guarantee we wouldn't do to Catalans and Salford what we did to them a few short weeks ago now.
Mr Pearson does not have many people queing up to buy his club so he only has one option. That is to use what he has delivered to the best of its ability. He has listened to the fans. He has delivered a good squad. All he needs now is a coach to bring the best out of them. So long as he persists with Radford we will forever fall short.
I won't even comment on players locking the coaches out of the dressing room. That should not happen at any level of any sport. Disgrace.'"
Good post for me!!
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