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| If you use him right, he will go ok for you. He will be a good squad player and to be honest, he's a good bloke to have around the club. People like him, and when he makes one of those barnstorming runs when he comes off the bench he will lift the team and the fans.
You can only look at playing him effectively for 10-15 minute spells... but I think with Gentle you have a coach who understands the game well enough to bring him on at the right time. You need him as an attacking weapon, and he's also effective at bringing you up from out of your own half when you need to try and turn the game... i.e... when you've been under the cosh for 4 or 5 sets and you need to get out of your own half... because like I said... he comes on with one of him runs and the crowd lifts, as does the team.
Where he lacks is defence... but like I say... You need to know when to use him... and when you are in the middle of the 4 or 5 sets of pressure... you don't bring him on when you don't have possession. That's what Salford seemed to do... we'd bring him on to defend when we had lost the ball on our own 40... and he'd end up dropping off a tackle because he wasn't fast enough... or could get down low enough to stop the faster players.
Give him a chance... may not set the world on fire as far as top signings go... but judge him on what he can give your team rather that what he can't. Gentle wouldn't have signed him unless he had a plan of how to use him.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Don't mind this to be fair. Be cheap enough n I imagine it's a very incentive based deal.
Could be a masterstroke n if it fails won't be disastrous. But by all accounts in top shape now. About to start in French league n then come in November. So will be at a decent level fitness wise before pre season.
People probably right to be sceptical, underwhelmed critical even. He's a big boy n his short comings left him at the point where he is. Could of being playing at a top team over the last few yrs.
What I don't like is the bagging of young kids like Thomson n Arundel was when they've not had a chance. Feka will hopefully do the job we want. To be fair if on top form he's a potential fans favourite!!'"
He wasn't wanted at Salford and remind me of how good they was back then, what big club could he have possibly attracted?
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| He will give us some much needed go forward.
I can understand this signing.
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| Could go either way. Obviously Hull have had a look at him and based their decision on what they've seen. Would imagine it's not a big contract and doesn't affect fed spots so could indeed be the signing of the season if his performances are at SL level. If not then I guess he'll struggle to get a spot in the 17.
The thing I'm most encouraged about is the speed with which the signing has been dismissed by many of the usual suspects plus of course the knowledge-free fans of a local small club. The fact that that has happened vastly increases the chance that this punt will be successful exactly as happened with Ryan McGoldrick. No guarantees obviously but it certainly helps.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar""Upset" is a little strong Kosh but it certainly irritates me that my club think that I'm stupid enough to soak up that utter drivel.'"
I do take your general point but that's just the way all business work nowadays. It's nothing personal.
And RL clubs have, by and large, become just like other businesses. It's a natural consequence of becoming a pro sport.
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| This huge signing must attract some new support and bring back others who have been lost to the game, season ticket sales will be on the rise!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"This huge signing must attract some new support and bring back others who have been lost to the game, season ticket sales will be on the rise!'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"
The thing I'm most encouraged about is the speed with which the signing has been dismissed by many of the usual suspects plus of course the knowledge-free fans of a local small club. The fact that that has happened vastly increases the chance that this punt will be successful exactly as happened with Ryan McGoldrick. No guarantees obviously but it certainly helps.'"
Yeah, like with Galea. He certainly proved the doubters wrong, eh?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Yeah, like with Galea. He certainly proved the doubters wrong, eh?'"
Like I said could go either way. The doubters may be right. Galea was a strange signing as we didn't need a second rower particularly so the gamble on him never really had the reward to match the risk. I know you'd prefer Cookie but I think we need more grunt up front. At least this player in theory could provide that.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"This huge signing must attract some new support and bring back others who have been lost to the game, season ticket sales will be on the rise!'"
I'd imagine our season ticket sales will go up, after a challenge cup final, a play off win, and two victories against that small club across the river this season.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Like I said could go either way. The doubters may be right. '"
I never disputed the fact that it could go either way, I was responding specifically to your assertion that the signing being unpopular amongst a certain section of our fanbase (and extremely popular with the Rovers fans) somehow increases the chances of the gamble paying off.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I never disputed the fact that it could go either way, I was responding specifically to your assertion that the signing being unpopular amongst a certain section of our fanbase (and extremely popular with the Rovers fans) somehow increases the chances of the gamble paying off.'"
I believe that - couldn't give a flying one if you don't.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I'd imagine our season ticket sales will go up, after a challenge cup final, a play off win, and two victories against that small club across the river this season.'"
Rovers have the "my council tax funded" stand though to smash their season sales through the 10k "break even or go into administration" mark.
So in short term we are utterly doomed.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I believe that - couldn't give a flying one if you don't.'"
As is your right, but it's an utterly illogical standpoint. For every unpopular signing who has proved the doubters wrong, there's at least one more who hasn't.
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| Quote ="SirStan"My posting history will show I'm no troll.
It just seems a strange signing for any SL club, let alone one with top 4 aspirations.
Imagine the pillocking we would take had we signed him![/qu
you signed brown, caro, paterson withers hall eden shall I go on big players for a bottom 4 team, oh I forgot costigan and weyman and that's going forward
keep on dreaming at least you've got a new stand you cant afford or will never fill it
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| He could be a good signing but he's got it all to prove after his spell out of SL.
Time will tell
And still room for Mika because feka will be a dispensation signing
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| Quote ="Rock God X"As is your right, but it's an utterly illogical standpoint. For every unpopular signing who has proved the doubters wrong, there's at least one more who hasn't.'"
Like me and my theory you can't quantify that claim. Presumably - like mine- it's just a hunch.
And the reason I thought you were against the signing rather than "not disputing it could go either way" was to do with your posts from the other day on the subject.
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Quote ="Rock God X"Just the fact that he's been crap for three years to worry about then. Seriously, I can't see this being true. Gentle's recruitment has been a bit of a mixed bag, but I really can't see that he'd scrape this particular barrel.'"
didn't seem to position you in the 50/50 camp.
Anyway - time will tell I suppose.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I'm not saying you're a troll but I have to agree with you.
4 years ago a great signing but there's a reason why Wigan and Salford got rid of him.
Not a very inspiring signing especially for a team with top 4 aspirations.
I hope there's method in this madness, I couldn't see a host of SL clubs beating a path to his door.
Not impressed but I'll reserve any further judgement until he plays.'"
Correct me if I am wrong but did Wigan get rid and replace him with Lueaki (SP) - just asking ?
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"I spend less time this side than you spend our side.
So , chins up for Feka and go buy your season passes.
The top 2 awaits.'"
better than the bottom two and relegation you'll be playing for
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| Have to say feka maybe a great signing for you guys depending on his shape! At Wigan pre Mcguire days he was large shall we say but the damage he did in the 30 mins he would play was massive taking at least three men in every tackle and how many times did he rumble over from the 20! However maguire got him to slim up and unfortunately the mass he lost took away his power and force! Would love to see him at his best knocking players on there backsides in super league again
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Like me and my theory you can't quantify that claim. Presumably - like mine- it's just a hunch.'"
Hardly a hunch. For every Ryan McGoldrick there's a Ben Galea, for every Martin Aspinwall a Chris Thorman. That aside, the very idea that the negative opinions of a few message board posters is likely to have any effect on the chances of a signing being successful or not is, in itself, absurd. By your reckoning, if the reaction had been overwhelmingly positive, that would decrease the chances of him being successful.
Quote And the reason I thought you were against the signing rather than "not disputing it could go either way" was to do with your posts from the other day on the subject.
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didn't seem to position you in the 50/50 camp.
Anyway - time will tell I suppose.'"
The two positions are not mutually exclusive. I am against the signing - I think it's a poor one. That doesn't mean I don't accept the possibility that he will surprise a few people and recapture his best form. I just that I think the odds are against it. You could put me in the 85/15 camp, rather than the 50/50 one.
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| I took a few knocks to the head the other day and I'm really hoping I'm unconscious and this is all just a bad dream.
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| Is this the "project" signing we were expecting then? I'm a little underwhelmed but not seeing him play for a while I will reserve judgement. Welcome to FC Feka, all the doubters will soon clam up if you rip in on your debut.
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| Personally I'd have much preferred us having Michael Weyman as our starting prop with Paea.
That'd done for me.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I did try to warn you all that 'spin' is just what all organisations do nowadays and nothing to do with who happens to be in charge. I did also say not to expect anything to change when Pearson took over.
If you're going to let spin upset you then you're going to spend plenty of time upset.'"
You lay it on too thick and its counter productive. Spin is inevitable, but it can be done less glaringly. We've got the Ben Cockayne announcement to look forward to, of course, where I suspect more prominence will be given to his ETS call-up rather than the string of off field incidents that led to his departure in the first place, so I'm not throwing stones.
Quote ="Kosh"Leaving aside the expected spin on the website, everyone who has actually seen Feka is reporting that he does indeed look fit and is raring to go. That includes Smailes. Maybe we should wait and see how he goes before opening any veins?'"
Even Smailes!
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He could be brilliant, he could be washed-up (IP, not Smailes), it's a gamble, but all signings are. The fact it is 2 years makes it a bigger gamble, but it suggests a confidence that he has still got it - whether that is well placed, we'll see.
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