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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Those would be two very good signings but IMO it would also leave us a bit short in the front row. (Depending on where Gentle sees Tickle playing)'"
say a backow was signed eg sika manu then it gives you options of moving tickle in the front row for spells and given that our back 3 play the full 80 id be quite happy with our forward pack if a good player like sika manu was signed
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Would like to think that, but condidering our so called top signings are with us for minimum 2 years, where is the room going to come from to sign the 'champion players' that Bomber talks about?
Unless AP gets his hand in his pocket and adopts a bit of Wires creative acounting then top 4 you can forget.
Very disapointed with the Martin signing, being a long time since i can remember being as deflated by a new signing. How AP thinks the season passes will fly off the shelves is beyond me.'"
why woudnt they?
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Unless AP gets his hand in his pocket and adopts a bit of Wires creative acounting then top 4 you can forget.
Very disapointed with the Martin signing, being a long time since i can remember being as deflated by a new signing. How AP thinks the season passes will fly off the shelves is beyond me.'"
Yeah - nobody will get suspicious if we suddenly start recruiting expensive players after publicly declaring that we're close to the cap.
Maybe AP thinks that major changes at the club, including the removal of the coach who was quoted as the number one reason why people wouldn't buy passes, will be enough for a boost in sales? Or have the goalposts moved now?
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| many people stated they would buy passes this season now agar has gone, regardless who was signed or played
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2nd row: Westerman
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That's how we finished this season and how we'll start next season I expect. It's the bench spot for rotation that's up for grabs/where a new signing is needed. Whiting definately has the ability to fill this role if needed.
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| Quote ="number 6"many people stated they would buy passes this season now agar has gone, regardless who was signed or played'"
Seems to be a certain amount of back-pedalling going on.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Would like to think that, but condidering our so called top signings are with us for minimum 2 years, where is the room going to come from to sign the 'champion players' that Bomber talks about?
Unless AP gets his hand in his pocket and adopts a bit of Wires creative acounting then top 4 you can forget.
Very disapointed with the Martin signing, being a long time since i can remember being as deflated by a new signing. How AP thinks the season passes will fly off the shelves is beyond me.'"
Maybe he think most supporters won't base their decision on the signing of one player.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Maybe he think most supporters won't base their decision on the signing of one player.'"
Think a lot will be waiting for that big signing, to get the pulse racing before they splash the cash. No doubt the major influence will be the Agar factor though.
Like i said earlier though, the 'big' money players we have signed on now apart from Lynch are not Gentles or Bombers players. How much room are we going to have for additions next season or the season after now??
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| Jesus emotions are so up n down and we ant had a game for a month !
If there's no champion player getting signed and mcrae happy starting with what we've got. What was AP talking about when he said " By november you'll know what a massive club we're gonna be". Although the salary cap no's don't add up I still think we're in better position than we was this time last year.
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| Quote ="hedon faithful"Jesus emotions are so up n down and we ant had a game for a month !
If there's no champion player getting signed and mcrae happy starting with what we've got. What was AP talking about when he said " By november you'll know what a massive club we're gonna be". Although the salary cap no's don't add up I still think we're in better position than we was this time last year.'"
can you find a link where pearson said that?
doubt you will
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seems to be a certain amount of back-pedalling going on.'"
Does appear that way. I was in no doubt that we would hammer through the 10K pass sales level when Agar went - what with all the stay-aways returning.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Does appear that way. I was in no doubt that we would hammer through the 10K pass sales level when Agar went - what with all the stay-aways returning.'"
bae brough will affect us too, know two people who will not be re-newing only for that reason alone
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| Quote ="number 6"bae brough will affect us too, know two people who will not be re-newing only for that reason alone'"
No doubting it. Economic factors affected the gate last year before BAE. The truth is that there were a number of reasons why the gates fell so much but the economic one was probably the biggest IMO.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"The Jodie Broughton rumour is encouraging (if there is any truth in it) but IMO it is much more important to have quality in the centres than on the wing.
Put a world class player in the centre spot and almost any mug can look good on his wing.'"
Jodie Broughton very unlikely to come as he has already started his uni course in Manchester.
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| Quote ="number 6"can you find a link where pearson said that?
doubt you will'"
During the interview he did for fctv with james rule it was bit of Q and A
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| Quote ="hedon faithful"During the interview he did for fctv with james rule it was bit of Q and A'"
Suggest you watch it again as you seem to have heard wrong.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Suggest you watch it again as you seem to have heard wrong.'"
What's the point in being pedantic? We all know what the posters referring too. Or is it easier to dismiss his point because he never stated the 'exact' words spoken?
Pearson said that by October/November people would clearly see the direction we were taking (or words to that effect). Since then we've signed Lynch and Martin and saved a whopping £5 on our passes. More spin than Shane Warne.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What's the point in being pedantic? We all know what the posters referring too. Or is it easier to dismiss his point because he never stated the 'exact' words spoken?
Pearson said that by October/November people would clearly see the direction we were taking (or words to that effect). Since then we've signed Lynch and Martin and saved a whopping £5 on our passes. More spin than Shane Warne.'"
why do people think that it is only stuff that happens on the pitch regarding players and not off it?
the whole coaching set up has seen a massive change in direction, too many fans have been caught up on a wave of silly rumours, chinese whispers and believing what their mates tell the in the pub!
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| Quote ="number 6"why do people think that it is only stuff that happens on the pitch regarding players and not off it?
the whole coaching set up has seen a massive change in direction, too many fans have been caught up on a wave of silly rumours, chinese whispers and believing what their mates tell the in the pub!'"
Maybe because the playing side is the most important? Have a look at our squad, is it good enough for top 4 in your opinion? Because it certainly isn't in mine.
Why do we need a DOR, head coach and two assistants? Name me any club that's had success this way?
I've already mentioned the spin we got about pass prices and the voucher exchange.
I'm not unreasonable enough to suggest it should all be done in a couple of months, but AP is putting out as much spin as the old regime.
It's like we've gotten rid of Shane Warne only to get Muttiah Muralitharan.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Maybe because the playing side is the most important? Have a look at our squad, is it good enough for top 4 in your opinion? Because it certainly isn't in mine.
Why do we need a DOR, head coach and two assistants? Name me any club that's had success this way?
I've already mentioned the spin we got about pass prices and the voucher exchange.
I'm not unreasonable enough to suggest it should all be done in a couple of months, but AP is putting out as much spin as the old regime.
It's like we've gotten rid of Shane Warne only to get Muttiah Muralitharan.'"
it so simple that many just seem it doesn't exist!
SALARY CAP!
if we don't have the space we can't sign the players
as for spin, name a club, company or buisness that doesn't use it everyday
passes have come down, £60 if you were a east stand pass holder last season and wish to go unreserved this year, ok only a fiver has been deducted elsewhere but how many other clubs have reduced prices without resorting to desperate measures lke bradford and hudds?
DOR? did you read or listen to anything mcrea said why he took the job, mainly to assist pearson
i suggest if you're that peeved off, stick to cricket!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Maybe because the playing side is the most important? Have a look at our squad, is it good enough for top 4 in your opinion? Because it certainly isn't in mine.
Why do we need a DOR, head coach and two assistants? Name me any club that's had success this way?
I've already mentioned the spin we got about pass prices and the voucher exchange.
I'm not unreasonable enough to suggest it should all be done in a couple of months, but AP is putting out as much spin as the old regime.
It's like we've gotten rid of Shane Warne only to get Muttiah Muralitharan.'"
I completely understand what you're saying and do agree to some extent. I don't think it's spin, more a case of not managing expectations properley. Maybe AP is frustrated at not being able to deliver everything he wants but in a short space of time he had already shaped our club for the better.
The coaching structure looks much better and people have clearly defined roles, we have a new head coach we we craved and two young assistants. Lynch was a great signing and Martin not so. We had already recruited pretty well before he came and he was left with little room to work with.
I will take at least a season to get us into a top four side but we have taken significant steps for the better I feel.
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it so simple that many just seem it doesn't exist!
SALARY CAP!
if we don't have the space we can't sign the players
as for spin, name a club, company or buisness that doesn't use it everyday
passes have come down, £60 if you were a east stand pass holder last season and wish to go unreserved this year, ok only a fiver has been deducted elsewhere but how many other clubs have reduced prices without resorting to desperate measures lke bradford and hudds?
DOR? did you read or listen to anything mcrea said why he took the job, mainly to assist pearson
i suggest if you're that peeved off, stick to cricket!'"
Ah right, the salary cap. Explain to me then, how AP can imply that we never spent the full cap under the old regime, then take into account who's leaving and who's coming in and tell me why McRae said we're at or near full cap?
I'll ignore all your other 'drivel'. As its largely irrelevant.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I completely understand what you're saying and do agree to some extent. I don't think it's spin, more a case of not managing expectations properley. Maybe AP is frustrated at not being able to deliver everything he wants but in a short space of time he had already shaped our club for the better.
The coaching structure looks much better and people have clearly defined roles, we have a new head coach we we craved and two young assistants. Lynch was a great signing and Martin not so. We had already recruited pretty well before he came and he was left with little room to work with.
I will take at least a season to get us into a top four side but we have taken significant steps for the better I feel.'"
Clearly defined roles? Gentle has 2 assistants FFS.
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| I think we struggle to attract players, the salary cap doesn't help but clubs find way's around that so let's not be naive to think that's the only reason.
Hull has a very bad reputation.
AP should really check himself though before making bold statements about top 4 and how in the past recruitment was poor, so he deserves criticism when the club makes terrible signings.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Clearly defined roles? Gentle has 2 assistants FFS.'"
Radford may have been given the impression he is "assistant" but the reality is that he's the U20's coach, the rest is just to save face, Last is U18's coach, that leaves Lynch as the [igenuine[/i assistant and Gentle as head coach.
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