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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Was thinking that yesterday actually but didn't want to say anything for fear of Whiting related repercussions. I thought back to 2005 when Blacklock got loads of stick, who was his centre for most of the season.
FWIW Whiting is probably hung out to dry by Tickle inside of him who in turn is hung out to dry by Horne or Long inside of him. The Blame will ultimately stop with the hooker in the middle.
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Just out of interest, why did you 'fear Whiting related repercussions'?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Just out of interest, why did you 'fear Whiting related repercussions'?'"
Because he is untouchable on here. He's been poor since he moved to centre, can't think of many that have been as consistently anonymous. The sooner we sign Gleeson the better.
I'd move him back to FB tbh, Phelps has been poor too.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Because he is untouchable on here. He's been poor since he moved to centre, can't think of many that have been as consistently anonymous. The sooner we sign Gleeson the better.
[uI'd move him back to FB tbh, Phelps has been poor too[/u.'"
Agree with that.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Because he is untouchable on here. He's been poor since he moved to centre, can't think of many that have been as consistently anonymous. The sooner we sign Gleeson the better.
I'd move him back to FB tbh, Phelps has been poor too.'"
That's what I thought.All this pressure on Sharp is unfair because the man on his inside is the golden boy at Hull. Don't get me wrong, I rate Whiting really highly and really like him as a player, but simply saying Whiting's best position isn't centre therefore it's ok for him to not be great there isn't good enough.
Phelps will get better, had a much better game last week and will continue to improve IMO.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"That's what I thought.All this pressure on Sharp is unfair because the man on his inside is the golden boy at Hull. Don't get me wrong, I rate Whiting really highly and really like him as a player, but simply saying Whiting's best position isn't centre therefore it's ok for him to not be great there isn't good enough.
Phelps will get better, had a much better game last week and will continue to improve IMO.'"
What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.'"
That I'm not sure of. He is a great bench player, but I do think he has deserved a starting spot.
He has trained all pre-season at centre and that is the position he has been given this season. He should be experienced enough to know how to defend at centre by now.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.'"
Thats whitings problem..jack of all trades, master of none...and a right slug of a runner aswell...id probably say fullback!
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| In answer to the topic title - no, but I bet Sharp will drop the ball
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"That I'm not sure of. He is a great bench player, but I do think he has deserved a starting spot.
He has trained all pre-season at centre and that is the position he has been given this season. He should be experienced enough to know how to defend at centre by now.'"
But you don't deserve a starting spot just on effort and being a nice lad. If I was pushed to give him a position it would be FB.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"But you don't deserve a starting spot just on effort and being a nice lad. If I was pushed to give him a position it would be FB.'"
No I think he deserved it due constistently impressing when he played and giving his all in every game. Like I say, I aren't doubting his ability, but when he is performing poorly fans are actually scared of calling him incase more fans get on his back!
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| Dropping Sharp would be daft!
All our right sided defences problems aren't Sharp, Long is defending at Centre and is Weak to say the least, with Long darting out the line Whiting does not have the pace to cover the gap left leaving Sharp with egg on his face,
Just an idea but maybe when defending in our 20 could we slot Fitzgibbon out to the right with Long/Obst, Whiting and Sharp and move the second rower at the time into the middle; It would be a big ask but Whiting is a solid defender and having Sharp Whiting Long Fitzgibbon you've got a lot stronger line. I'm pretty sure you'd be asking to much of Fitzy but it's just an idea ....
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| Quote ="Super Sammy Moa"Dropping Sharp would be daft!
All our right sided defences problems aren't Sharp, Long is defending at Centre and is Weak to say the least, with Long darting out the line Whiting does not have the pace to cover the gap left leaving Sharp with egg on his face,
Just an idea but maybe when defending in our 20 could we slot Fitzgibbon out to the right with Long/Obst, Whiting and Sharp and move the second rower at the time into the middle; It would be a big ask but Whiting is a solid defender and having Sharp Whiting Long Fitzgibbon you've got a lot stronger line. I'm pretty sure you'd be asking to much of Fitzy but it's just an idea ....'"
The simpler solution would be for each defender to spread out by an extra half a metre or so. This would give our defensive line far less compression and mean we don't have 3 on 1 out wide. If the only way we can defend is to put too many men down the middle then we have bigger defensive problems than some think.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.'"
I don't see how he's the perfect bench player when most teams play with 4 forwards on the bench and whiting has barely played in the forwards
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't see how he's the perfect bench player when most teams play with 4 forwards on the bench and whiting has barely played in the forwards'"
It would require a change in plan. It's not that difficult, cockle.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It would require a change in plan. It's not that difficult, cockle.
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Indeed, it's easy to come up with a shiite rugby idea as agar has proven time and time again, cockle
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Indeed, it's easy to come up with a shiite rugby idea as agar has proven time and time again, cockle
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I never said it was perfect! That's why Agars (allegedly) a coach and I'm not!
Surely any change in plan can only be a good thing at this moment in time? He could rotate with just about anyone in the team to a good standard and gives us options to shuffle the back line around if things aren't going too well.
At least I'm offering options other than "Agar out". Cockle.
How's that going BTW?
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"Thats whitings problem..jack of all trades, master of none...and a right slug of a runner aswell...id probably say fullback!'"
maybe turner will replace him at centre against bulls
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"10 games he got from me this year, even if he wins the next 2 we will have fallen short by 3 wins. I'm not pro Agar, never really have been since the end of 2009, just thought an improved 2010 deserved a chance this time round.
He's failed. But while I only see Mcnamara or Noble as replacements I think I'd rather stick it out until the end of the year.'"
So you think we'll suddenly magic up a decent coach at the end of the season? Meanwhile it's another wasted year. Sounds like a genius plan
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So you think we'll suddenly magic up a decent coach at the end of the season?'"
Improbable as that may be, it's more likely than suddenly conjuring up a decent coach next week.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Improbable as that may be, it's more likely than suddenly conjuring up a decent coach next week.'"
You reckon? More likely to be progressive clubs looking for coaches at the end of the season and my opinion of his coaching abilities is so low I'd rather have you in charge than agar. At least you could bore the opposition to sleep
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg" my opinion of his coaching abilities is so low I'd rather have you in charge than agar. At least you could bore the opposition to sleep'"
I [uam[/u stupid and dull, it's true. Just for clarity, you must consider your own contributions to be diverse, balanced, multi-faceted, interesting and insightful in equal measure, then?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I [uam[/u stupid and dull, it's true. Just for clarity, you must consider your own contributions to be diverse, balanced, multi-faceted, interesting and insightful in equal measure, then?'"
Contributions to what? An internet forum? If that's what you mean then no, I consider them biased and based on my opinion on what is happening at my club.
I don't think you're stupid but I do know you are dull
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| Quote ="wolfie"maybe turner will replace him at centre against bulls'"
The right decision imo mate.
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