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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'd bring a hooker in.
Why couldnt Yeamo play in the back row? Defensively he is sound and wouldnt need the positional elements that he needs at centre where he is week. In attack he isnt pacey but has bags of strength and a great fend, why couldnt he use that in the 2nd row?'"
Not big and strong enough. He would struggle to make yards, our backrowers are more like battering rams than angle runners and he does not have the size to constantly take the ball up to the opposing forwards. I also think he would struggle with the amount of tackle he would have to make.
He is doing well at centre so why would we want to change him? We should sign another centre and play him and Yeaman there with Whiting and Turner as cover.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not big and strong enough. He would struggle to make yards, our backrowers are more like battering rams than angle runners and he does not have the size to constantly take the ball up to the opposing forwards. I also think he would struggle with the amount of tackle he would have to make.'"
Spot on.
Quote ="PAUL M"He is doing well at centre so why would we want to change him? We should sign another centre and play him and Turner there with Whiting and Yeaman as cover.'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not big and strong enough. He would struggle to make yards, our backrowers are more like battering rams than angle runners and he does not have the size to constantly take the ball up to the opposing forwards. I also think he would struggle with the amount of tackle he would have to make.
He is doing well at centre so why would we want to change him? We should sign another centre and play him and Yeaman there with Whiting and Turner as cover.'"
Like you I am a big supporter of Yeamo, I personally like him at centre also...however Turner as cover ? for the last few games he has outshone Yeamo and if this continues it could be Yeamo as cover
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| Gleeson anyone? Just a whisper I heard, out of favour recently at Wigan.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Gleeson anyone? Just a whisper I heard, out of favour recently at Wigan.'"
Be very happy with him still a class centre, been linked to him the last 15 years.
Got dropped only a few weeks ago, not sure why though.
If Berrigan doesnt leave of his own accord we cannot afford to pay him off, we might as well keep him and hope he gets back to form.
Was very good in his first year, (look at his stats), but the last 2 years has been disapointting, would at least like to try him at centre and see how he goes.
Would maybe like to see him given a go at 6 this week.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Gleeson anyone? Just a whisper I heard, out of favour recently at Wigan.'"
Centre is not really a problem it is wingers we lack.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not big and strong enough. He would struggle to make yards, our backrowers are more like battering rams than angle runners and he does not have the size to constantly take the ball up to the opposing forwards. I also think he would struggle with the amount of tackle he would have to make.
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I think he has the upper body strength and the leg drive to make a very good go of playing in the back row. May lack a bit of size but size isnt everything according to your mrs!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I think he has the upper body strength and the leg drive to make a very good go of playing in the back row. May lack a bit of size but size isnt everything according to your mrs!
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I also don't think his running style suits the backrow, he tends to duck into tackles a bit too much.
Your missus does not mind about size, she just enjoys the company when you are off in Norwich
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I also don't think his running style suits the backrow, he tends to duck into tackles a bit too much.
Your missus does not mind about size, she just enjoys the company when you are off in Norwich
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| Quote ="Dave K."Be very happy with him still a class centre, been linked to him the last 15 years.
=#8000FFGot dropped only a few weeks ago, not sure why though.
If Berrigan doesnt leave of his own accord we cannot afford to pay him off, we might as well keep him and hope he gets back to form.
Was very good in his first year, (look at his stats), but the last 2 years has been disapointting, would at least like to try him at centre and see how he goes.
Would maybe like to see him given a go at 6 this week.'"
Breach of club discipline, I believe.
Longy would be happy to have his old drinking buddy around.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Breach of club discipline, I believe.
Longy would be happy to have his old drinking buddy around.
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'kinell, may as well bring back Cooke and King and sign Hock for good measure. Would be the best centre in the city by a country mile, mind.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Don't know if you've read Longy's book, but him and Gleason once did 20 pints of Guinness in a night.
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10 a piece? I've seen that done, and done it (just the once) myself, unsurprisingly I hardly touch the stuff nowdays. Very very unpleasant business.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"10 a piece? I've seen that done, and done it (just the once) myself, unsurprisingly I hardly touch the stuff nowdays. Very very unpleasant business.'"
20 each!! They got Gleason's uncle (a landlord) to keep count.
I mean, imagine the scene the following day...
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"20 each!! They got Gleason's uncle (a landlord) to keep count.
I mean, imagine the scene the following day...'"
I'd rather not tbh.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Sorry, but that’s a special kind of rhubarb you’ve just come out with there. If players just naturally develop as they get older without input from senior players, we’d have a much better team than we currently do. In recent years, Houghton is an exception as a player whose stepped up to SL well, we have far more who have struggled or fallen by the wayside altogether.
There’s a direct link between young players’ development and the senior players available to them to learn from. Look at the last time we brought players through to the right standard, it was Horne and Cooke. Why? Jason and Tony Smith. Likewise for Yeaman with Toa Kohe-Love and Richie Barnett. A few more examples in recent years and who they had teaching them:
Sam Tomkins – Trent Barrett
Kyle Eastmond/Matt Smith – Sean Long
James Graham – Paul Anderson/Jason Cayless/Maurie Fa’asavalu
James Roby/Scott Moore – Keiron Cunningham
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Danny Houghton – Richard Swain/Shaun Berrigan
You can even look at Gareth Widdop learning under Billy Slater, and how about Jordan Tansey? Wasn’t until he went to Sydney Roosters that he finally started to come good on his potential IMO, and he did it at fullback. Who do they have on the books? Anthony Minichiello.
That’s why top sides have a better strike rate of turning promising youngsters into genuine first-teamers, because they have the better players passing on their knowledge.
See the pattern?'"
Whatever. I don't think Berrigan is a good hooker full stop. I think Danny Houghton has the makings of an excellent one. What you have put as regards the other players is maybe fair enough, apart from tansey who is not and will never be a top fullback.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Whatever. [size=200I don't think Berrigan is a good hooker full stop[/size. I think Danny Houghton has the makings of an excellent one. What you have put as regards the other players is maybe fair enough, apart from tansey who is not and will never be a top fullback.'"
funny how the three best teams in the world seemed to think so....
brisbane (gf winners)
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"funny how the three best teams in the world seemed to think so....
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I thought he generally played at for those teams?
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| played at hooker for a number of years now,inc plenty of time in aus before he joined us.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"I thought he generally played at Centre for those teams?'"
He did
Bearing in mind our forward/back imbalance in terms of strength it seems crazy not to use a world class and SOO centre at, err centre.
Giving more options (eg Turner to the wing) for our shaky back line.
ChrisH summed it up for me as I'm also getting increasingly frustrated at the waste of Whiting:
Quote ="ChrisH"We have to get some value out of Berrigan , we've had precious little so far. To me it's clear that he was a decent centre and has the brains and experience to help organise wider out, something we lack at the moment. Houghton has done well recently , especially with the extra game time and coaching from Webster. We have only one player in our backline playing in his proper position , Yeaman. The rest are makeshift. Berrigan in the centre allows Turner to go to wing and Whiting (who is never a winger and who's performances have been getting steadily poorer) to , at last , get nearer the action. I'd have Whiting at loose but at the moment I'd give him a go at Stand Off. Things happen when Whiting has the ball. It would surely be better even if 13 or 6 was deemed not to be an option for Whiting to be on the bench , offering true utility? If Berrigan performed at centre and got involved he could help give Long a bit more space by providing another option wider out. Currently shut Longy down and apart from "the Tansey link up" on the left, that's it. '"
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"funny how the three best teams in the world seemed to think so....
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Get your facts straight. We signed him as a hooker, but he has never played as a hooker on a regular basis. Berro was used most as an impact utility player.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Get your facts straight.'"
ooof, handbags out girls!!
I we saw while Berrigan was injured we didn't really miss him, Houghton and McShane sharing the hooker role worked very well. Houghton has came leaps and bounds lately he could easily be first choice if we have/acquire a back up hooker.
If, as alleged, Berrigan is on that sort of money maybe cutting our ties would be worth while.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not big and strong enough. He would struggle to make yards, our backrowers are more like battering rams than angle runners and he does not have the size to constantly take the ball up to the opposing forwards. I also think he would struggle with the amount of tackle he would have to make.
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And how many people want whiting in the back row?
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Get your facts straight. We signed him as a hooker, but he has never played as a hooker on a regular basis.'"
Get your facts straight. Yes he has. He played there for the back end of the 2006 season (in the Broncos GF winning run) with Michael Ennis injured and Casey McGuire dropping to the bench, and the full 2007 season.
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