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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You would have hoped so but given the way Thackray was be littling some players i dont think that happened.
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Saw him give Josh Hodgson a talking to, didnt notice any be-littling though?
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"
It really is a season of transition for the reserves in '09'"
I think it is across the board TBH. The standard i've seen so far this season has been very poor. The better players are now playing first team and the others have gone to NL clubs to earn some money. Quality is at a premium now in that comp and a lot of the matches are a pure waste of time.
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| Look what Agar said he was going to do after the last Rovers game. Take his comments with a pinch of salt
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| Quote ="The Key"Look what Agar said he was going to do after the last Rovers game. Take his comments with a pinch of salt'"
In fairness he is limited in his options due to injury and visa. I think Whiting will be involved not sure about anyone else.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"In fairness he is limited in his options due to injury and visa. I think Whiting will be involved not sure about anyone else.'"
He shouldn't say he is going to ring the changes then.
Personally I feel the team needs a shake up. Not nessarily in terms of dropping everyone but dropping around 3 players (not sure who, but I feel Houghton and Thacks need to be back at least) and changing players around
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| Quote ="The Key"He shouldn't say he is going to ring the changes then.
Personally I feel the team needs a shake up. Not nessarily in terms of dropping everyone but dropping around 3 players (not sure who, but I feel Houghton and Thacks need to be back at least) and changing players around'"
Where's he said that?
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Where's he said that?'"
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Where's he said that?'"
[urlhttp://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=12096[/url
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| Quote ="The Key"He shouldn't say he is going to ring the changes then.
Personally I feel the team needs a shake up. Not nessarily in terms of dropping everyone but dropping around 3 players (not sure who, but I feel Houghton and Thacks need to be back at least) and changing players around'"
Dont think he can be criticised for his words. Other things maybe but he has said we were abject and pathetic on Sunday and he's right.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Where's he said that?'"
Reading the HDM article, it seems as the article goes on he is saying that changes are to be made
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Dont think he can be criticised for his words. Other things maybe but he has said we were abject and pathetic on Sunday and he's right.'"
Yep, he was right. But if he believes we were that bad, and doesn't go for big changes then he will be shown up as pathetic. We have played terrible in the past 2 games, poorly against Cas and hit and miss for the other games bar Catalans.
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| Quote ="Danny 2"[urlhttp://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=12096[/url
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Again, where does Agar say that he is going to 'ring the changes'?
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| Quote ="The Key"Yep, he was right. But if he believes we were that bad, and doesn't go for big changes then he will be shown up as pathetic. We have played terrible in the past 2 games, poorly against Cas and hit and miss for the other games bar Catalans.'"
I'm no fan of Agar, but the changes he can make are rather limited at the moment due to visas not arriving, injuries, and lack of form of potential replacements.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Again, where does Agar say that he is going to 'ring the changes'?'"
Where did I say he mentioned those specific words? Talk about been pedantic Ash
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| Quote ="Danny 2"[urlhttp://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=12096[/url
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Are you suggesting that Agar personally wrote that headline?
Including the question mark at the end?
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| Quote ="The Key"Where did I say he mentioned those specific words? Talk about been pedantic Ash'"
You said he was going to ring the changes, then had a dig at him because you said he probably won't do it when in fact he hasn't actually said it.
It just comes across as really bitter, due to your hatred of Agar.
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| Think he'll only change the bench with Thackray for Moa, same starting 13 as I dont think he has the balls to do anything drastic.
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| Quote ="The Key"Where did I say he mentioned those specific words? Talk about been pedantic Ash'"
TBF all he says is that there is some competition for places.
I'm more concerned about his assessment of the performances of Whiting, Thacks, and Maloney in the reserves. It differs rather radically from what others who have seen them play have reported on here.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm no fan of Agar, but the changes he can make are rather limited at the moment due to visas not arriving, injuries, and lack of form of potential replacements.'"
Exactly.
HULL FC coach Richard Agar admits changes may be made for Friday's derby clash following his side's recent slump in form.
"We'll take stock this week, take a look at how Rovers will set up and decide later in the week, but we have some competition for places"
" We've got some scope to make changes, but we won't make a knee-jerk emotional reaction" Agar told the Mail.
Not sure how any of that translates into Agar has said he is going to ring the changes and will be pathetic if he doesn't.
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| dont think agar will change the 17
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"You said he was going to ring the changes, then had a dig at him because you said he probably won't do it when in fact he hasn't actually said it.
It just comes across as really bitter, due to your hatred of Agar.'"
Hatred of Agar? What a joke That insinuates that no matter what Agar does, I would still dislike him. Which is utter crap
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| Quote ="The Key"Hatred of Agar? What a joke
That insinuates that no matter what Agar does, I would still dislike him. Which is utter crap
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After we'd lost a game, or maybe two (despite five wins on the trot) you wanted him to be sacked. Speaks volumes.
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| Quote ="The Key"Yep, he was right. But if he believes we were that bad, and doesn't go for big changes then he will be shown up as pathetic. We have played terrible in the past 2 games, poorly against Cas and hit and miss for the other games bar Catalans.'"
I think if players were available there would be wholesale changes but they're not. I want to see Thacks and Whiting and possibly Houghton in. Out of the current lot I agree with you I don't see why King merits a place - he did nothing on Sunday apart from lose the collision - and Tickle has been below average.
In my opinion our only chance of winning on Friday is to match and exceed Rovers' intensity. Many teams have regained form or overturned the form book by taking this approach - Salford being a case in point. I actually believe we have the players to take advantage if we win the intensity battle but it will require an effort level not seen for a few games if it's to succeed.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"After we'd lost a game, or maybe two (despite five wins on the trot) you wanted him to be sacked. Speaks volumes.'"
I haven't been impressed with the team all season despite wins. I've gone over why in other threads. Before the Cas game started I was saying to a Cas mate of mine that we had been poor despite our 5 wins. I actually responded to Agar fairly well last year despite us getting worse in the league, and over pre-season I was quite supportive of him too.
So no, it doesn't speak volumes. Nice try at acting like a di*k though
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"After we'd lost a game, or maybe two (despite five wins on the trot) you wanted him to be sacked. Speaks volumes.'"
We played poor in some of those games we won too, thats the issue. Its not the results its the way that we play. We're the most boring and negative team in the league.
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