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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You said senior player[us[/u. Washbrook is one. Who are the others?
Christ on a bike, you can hardly say Radford:
a) Hasn't given Turgut an opportunity. He's played almost 30 games, right?
b) Isn't giving youth a chance. Fash, Masi, Lane, Downs, Turgut, Litten..how many appearances have they clocked up over last season and this? It's not a handful, it's a lot.
Lane's overtaken him in the pecking order from what I can see, that happens. Not everyone will make it. Look at Ben Crooks for example. Darryl Powell shipped him on and he's playing in the championship. Radford's judgement proved right again.'"
Played 20 times last year did Turgut, I would say that is enough chances, on from Washbrook deserves to be in front of him, however like some on here I haven't given up on him yet, I think Knockers is right he does need some game time, I find it strange he can't get a loan deal or DR at Donny, maybe that says something about him, possible attitude?
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| Quote ="bonaire"not good enough yet Dave even in division 1.
We went through this before we signed Kelly everyone saying Tuimavave would be our 6 yet most people could see it wasnt his position.
When Kelly goes we need to use the quota spot and try to sign a similar running half.Abdull and Connor are not the answer especially playing with Sneyd.
Connor should be at right centre and Griffin moved into the second row.'"
Not sure about Harris, often stand out in the championship, players like Logan and Litten havn't stood out on DR with Donny, yet they do well when they play for us in SL, I haven't seen Donny play this year, so can't comment on how he is doing, but he is playing each week and they are top of the league, so he must be doing something right.
Was never a fan of Carlos, think Connor has potential to be a star there, get on the ball as much as possible, needs to concentrate on his game, rather than winding players up though.
I think we only option for us would be Lui, other than that I think we would have to use the marquee rule to get a good enough replacement for Kelly from the NRL.
I think I'd rather stick with that we have, unless a top player becomes available.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You said senior player[us[/u. Washbrook is one. Who are the others?
Christ on a bike, you can hardly say Radford:
a) Hasn't given Turgut an opportunity. He's played almost 30 games, right?
b) Isn't giving youth a chance. Fash, Masi, Lane, Downs, Turgut, Litten..how many appearances have they clocked up over last season and this? It's not a handful, it's a lot.
Lane's overtaken him in the pecking order from what I can see, that happens. Not everyone will make it. Look at Ben Crooks for example. Darryl Powell shipped him on and he's playing in the championship. Radford's judgement proved right again.'"
too little too late in giving younger players opportunity that's why there's this big gap since Hadley, Bowden, Green, Shall, Crooks, Lineham came through. Our youngsters under Radford barring Fash are behind other top clubs and not enough quality/experience, or are you saying that pundits like Kirk Dixon are wrong?
So we should just give up on Turgut then, that's what you're saying right? He's going stale, not playing at all, that's great development
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"too little too late in giving younger players opportunity that's why there's this big gap since Hadley, Bowden, Green, Shall, Crooks, Lineham came through. Our youngsters under Radford barring Fash are behind other top clubs and not enough quality/experience, or are you saying that pundits like Kirk Dixon are wrong?
So we should just give up on Turgut then, that's what you're saying right? He's going stale, not playing at all, that's great development
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How many times does it need pointing out to you that the gap in youth development between the Shaul/Hadley/Bowden/Green crop, and the current crop of Lane/Turgut/Logan/Matongo/Fash etc is in most part due to the legacy left behind from Hetherington and the chronic underinvestment in our academy in her last few years.
Radford can't play youngsters if there aren't any of sufficient quality & some fall by the way side regardless of investment, that's the nature of the beast.
Don't forget that Hadley is 25, Shaul 25, Bowden 26, Green 28
Matongo is 21, Fash 22, Abdull 22, Litten 20, Logan 22, Lane 20, Turgut 22
There is a clear gap - but that gap certainly isn't because Radford is reluctant to play youngsters or give them opportunity. A lot of these players are still very young, especially for forwards, to expect them to be regular first teamers.
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| Quote ="DGM"How many times does it need pointing out to you that the gap in youth development between the Shaul/Hadley/Bowden/Green crop, and the current crop of Lane/Turgut/Logan/Matongo/Fash etc is in most part due to the legacy left behind from Hetherington and the chronic underinvestment in our academy in her last few years.
Radford can't play youngsters if there aren't any of sufficient quality & some fall by the way side regardless of investment, that's the nature of the beast.
Don't forget that Hadley is 25, Shaul 25, Bowden 26, Green 28
Matongo is 21, Fash 22, Abdull 22, Litten 20, Logan 22, Lane 20, Turgut 22
There is a clear gap - but that gap certainly isn't because Radford is reluctant to play youngsters or give them opportunity. A lot of these players are still very young, especially for forwards, to expect them to be regular first teamers.'"
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Quote ="DGM"How many times does it need pointing out to you that the gap in youth development between the Shaul/Hadley/Bowden/Green crop, and the current crop of Lane/Turgut/Logan/Matongo/Fash etc is in most part due to the legacy left behind from Hetherington and the chronic underinvestment in our academy in her last few years.
Radford can't play youngsters if there aren't any of sufficient quality & some fall by the way side regardless of investment, that's the nature of the beast.
Don't forget that Hadley is 25, Shaul 25, Bowden 26, Green 28
Matongo is 21, Fash 22, Abdull 22, Litten 20, Logan 22, Lane 20, Turgut 22
There is a clear gap - but that gap certainly isn't because Radford is reluctant to play youngsters or give them opportunity. A lot of these players are still very young, especially for forwards, to expect them to be regular first teamers.'"
don't try facts, bumpy doesn't like them...'"
You also have to factor in the way the whole set up in the game itself for junior development as whole is a shambles as the decision to get rid of the reserve grade and not build on that is having an affect on all clubs.
Most of the younger players didn't make it due to a number of reasons one which AP alluded almost immediately after taking over and that was the total lack of investment in junior development at the club which he has since funded. Also the fact that we have two teams vying for the same youngsters in a much smaller area than the Yorkshire & Lancashire clubs. All in all I think since the changes made by AP under the advice of LR the clubs doing all it can to promote youth (Joint Academy still a bone of contention).
If it wasn't for Radford we wouldn't have Shaul now or seen Lineham in a Hull shirt. I liked Gentle but unfortunately due his lack of local knowledge when he came he was sold down the river by McRae and that for me was the undoing of him.
I really didnt think LR was the right man for the job and openly voiced that but I am big enough to say he has proven to be a very good appointment and turned the fortunes of this club around with the backing and trust of the owner.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not sure about Harris, often stand out in the championship, players like Logan and Litten havn't stood out on DR with Donny, yet they do well when they play for us in SL, I haven't seen Donny play this year, so can't comment on how he is doing, but he is playing each week and they are top of the league, so he must be doing something right.
Was never a fan of Carlos, think Connor has potential to be a star there, get on the ball as much as possible, needs to concentrate on his game, rather than winding players up though.
I think we only option for us would be Lui, other than that I think we would have to use the marquee rule to get a good enough replacement for Kelly from the NRL.
I think I'd rather stick with that we have, unless a top player becomes available.'"
i agree Lui would be a very good replacement for Kelly
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| I'd personally keep Talanoa, Manu, Washbrook and we've offered Kelly the biggest deal in our history but if he gets a deal in Australia then fair play too him. Don't think Turgut is going to make it he hasn't improved plus the likes of Lane and Hadley are ahead of him, think Abdull is worth another two years but as much as I love Minichello think its near the end for him unfortunately. Also Downs and Osbourne can go too. If we can get a good running 2nd rower like Ta'ai then I'd let Washy go too.
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| Quote ="Ellam"I'd personally keep Talanoa, Manu, Washbrook and we've offered Kelly the biggest deal in our history but if he gets a deal in Australia then fair play too him. Don't think Turgut is going to make it he hasn't improved plus the likes of Lane and Hadley are ahead of him, think Abdull is worth another two years but as much as I love Minichello think its near the end for him unfortunately. Also Downs and Osbourne can go too. If we can get a good running 2nd rower like Ta'ai then I'd let Washy go too.'"
where is the info' about the offer to Kelly?
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because of the increasingly slow speed of the site due to the advert to the right, does it really need to be taking up half of the screen.
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| Off a players brother, but don't know how much truth there is in it.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Off a players brother, but don't know how much truth there is in it.'"
I'd be surprised if players know what the offer is, bit we will never know what any player actually earns, and nor should we.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Off a players brother, but don't know how much truth there is in it.'"
I'd be surprised if players know what the offer is, but we will never know what any player actually earns, and nor should we.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"double post
because of the increasingly slow speed of the site due to the advert to the right, does it really need to be taking up half of the screen.
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seems not to work, no matter which I try. I just think the adverts need to at least get smaller, tney take up the majority of the page. Every season it gets worse.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"where is the info' about the offer to Kelly?'"
Its in the chairmans notes April 2018 from Adam Pearson. Don't think it is on the site just think it is emailed out.
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| ...." We’re hopeful over the coming weeks to tie Albert down to another contract having made him a considerable offer to stay with the club."
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| Quote ="Brid B&W"Its in the chairmans notes April 2018 from Adam Pearson. Don't think it is on the site just think it is emailed out.'"
yes, I saw that, but "I am hopefull of winning Euromillions, because I bought a ticket". Nowhere does it state we have offered him a club record deal.
I hope we can get him to stay, but there is little point if we don't keep the players he needs around him. Fingers definitely crossed!
(about EuroMillions and Kelly!)
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"seems not to work, no matter which I try. I just think the adverts need to at least get smaller, tney take up the majority of the page. Every season it gets worse.'"
uBlock Origin works well for me on Firefox
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| Quote ="Isaiah"uBlock Origin works well for me on Firefox'"
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| If we are in for Greenwood as rumoured I'd take him.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"If we are in for Greenwood as rumoured I'd take him.'"
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| 3 players I would go for are Robert Louis from Salford and one of Tai and Jones also from Salford or Joe Greenwood. Assuming Kelly, Mini & Manu to leave
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"thanks, will try it.'"
Download Adblock, that will sort it for you.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Download Adblock, that will sort it for you.'"
thanks, finally one that works!
why RLFans needs so many ads is beyond me though.
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