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I was talking about the perceptions bud.

The problem with FCVoices (and any other group) is that I can guarantee the club would stop talking to them as soon as they got a bit "troublesome".

Rubbish and totally uncalled for and if that is what you think, it is an unfounded unproven and ridiculous statement that questions the integrity of a group of fans who give up their time and efforts to try and make a difference!!

The criteria for selection is simply to include as many and varied aspects of the fan base of the club as possible, its about what members bring to the table. I will not be discussing this further because I do not have to argue about the integrity of the members of the group that for me goes without saying!

HISA could make an impact if it was actually used properly.
FC Voices can achieve what its there for if people actually see it for what it is, which is a tool for communication and not for taking action on behalf of fans. For people to say its 'toothless' is laughable because its not there to have teeth or really have any power of persuasion over the club

Are you on it?

But the perceptions are ones drawn up from those fans who like to slag the club off for everything, and it seems a lot of people have jumped on board. As I say, I've been out of the group for nearly a year now and I can't see how outsiders can come to that perception. The only thing for me that gives it any impression of the sort is the name of the group which I can understand if people misinterpret it

Why did you leave the post if you thought it was doing a good job?

It was mainly because I had problems at home and I couldnt really commit myself. I was deputy chairman at the time and felt that someone else needed to have the role who could commit themselves properly to the role

Why, he hasn't accused me of doing something illegall

Nobody else did either..........didnt stop you bleating though did it.

This has moved waaay O/T now.

Can we get back to discussing the news that HullFC released yesterday which is very positive and leave all the HISA/Voices talk to the HISA thread.

Indeed . Good move by the club and a step in the right direction.

That will be borne out by their ability and willingness to keep to their comittments (such as the 48 hour response), and also what they actually tell us, time will tell.

Like you sort of said, they've no requirement to tell us anything, so we shall see...

Yup

A lot of the time people will ask questions and the answer will be (quite rightly) one of:

"It's an internal matter and, as such, I can't comment"
"It's a commercial matter and, out of respect to partner organisations, I can't comment"
"It is club policiy not to discuss potential recruitment so as to avoid highlighting our targets to potential competing clubs"

etc. etc.

Well its good to see the club have listened to the fans and have at least tried to do something about it.

I will post my other thoughts on the HISA thread.

I think its a positive thing that the club is responding to the fans......................

I should not,but I am going to add......................IS ABOUT TIME



I am always wary when organisations spend years heading in one direction and then suddendly turn onto a different route.

Have to agree, there are two possible headlines:

"We're listening to the fans" which is great.
"We've decided to stop blatantly ignoring the fans" which isn't so great.

Even less so after today's shambles.

That thought crossed my mind as well.



I imagine that straws are being drawn even as we speak.

What is the betting the line is constantly engaged, yet a statement will come out that it was a very positive hour this week

Clark is preparing the crib sheet of reponses for them:

A grade club
Record season pass holders
10,000 shirts
Injuries
Not Agar's team
Super League closer competition than ever
We really value the loyalty of the fans
Blah
Blah
Blah

Just as well I am in France this week otherwise I would be calling in to KCFM. Enough is enough now.

Theyve acknowledged some failings. They are putting some solutions in place to calm the noise down. Whether they really listen or not will be evident on outcomes and the future etc for me. Its an olive branch and thats all currently.

I'd like to know what the vision is for the club. What are they intending to achieve, by when and in what manner? Do we want to play the most entertaining rugby in the country and at the same time reach at least two finals in the next two years, increasing revenue by 25%, increasing attendances by 20% and reducing the debt by 75%.

I just have no idea where the club is going. I hear that Agar has a vision that clearly seems to be attracting players to the club but what is it? I don't need details I just want something that I can hang my hat on..... so that when we're getting battered every week I can see some indication that we are making small steps in the right direction on and off the field. At the moment I just go each week full of hope and go back to work the next week utterly deflated.

Where is the club going????

Were going backwards rapidly currently.