This is all just rumour and speculation at the moment. We don't have a non-fed spot available so all this talk of Whiting and/or Thompson leaving is meaningless.

Assuming we don't have a problem with one of our new overseas signings the obvious candidate to leave would be Michaels.

He has a contract which he would rightly expect to be paid up. AP has said he is not going to pay off any more players and can he afford to anyway?

The only way the deal could happen would be if Michaels goes to Cas in a swap deal or if there is a problem with his visa which would only have been for one year and would need to be extended. However as he has not been convicted of anything why wouldn't it be extended?

Further problem, and one hopefully Chris28 could answer - If Micheals moves clubs, wouldn't he need to apply for a new visa? Whereas he wouldn't to stay on here.

He might do even if he stays with us, was he a one year initially with further options? If so, his initial visa might be just a year long one.

Dont quote me.., but if he's changed UK employer,

I think he needs a new work permit...and a new UK Visa to remain..

IF... the allegation in QLD, is still current,it would be difficult
to renew his visa.. -IMO

Carney to Hull not happening according to League Weekly

Headline reads 'Hull Players veto Carney move' and article states that it was a 'done deal' on Thursday but as rumours leaked out 'the management were asked if they would speak with the players first who then rejected the player joining them'

Seems strange that,can players actually do that?

I find it amazing (if its true) that a club which has suffered adversely as a result of "player power" over at least the last 10 years should allow its players to have a veto over who it does or does not sign.

Can anyone imagine Leeds or Wigan doing this?

@James_Smailes: I see there's plenty people saying FC are signing Justin Carney. 95% chance that won't happen as it stands. There was an enquiry, no deal.

[iIf[/i it's true and there was a player vote/discussion on signing Carney, it would have been a complete one off I imagine due to the what went on at Cas and the personal link to Jordan Thompson.

plus theres maybe more to this than we know, shame as a good player, but if its gonna rock the boat well I can see why, So who else should we be looking at ?

Or maybe it was all a smoke screen from the start, to make it look like Pearson was willing to invest the westerman money . But infact never was!! Just my conspiracy theory side of me ha

if its true,its a shame the players didn't veto the resigning of yeaman.

Might be a moot point now, but Michaels would need sponsorship from the new employer and then applies to transfer his visa. Same applies to Carney. Allegations of potentially criminal behaviour aren't considered as part of the visa process so there should be no problem for Michaels to move if that was what's happening.

If he stays here, we issue new sponsorship and extend the visa.

Maybe we might sign what we need - a hooker?

Maybe we could sign an outside back and a hooker (both of which we need) if we weren't overloaded with back row forwards.

Any ideas which good hookers are available?

This, the club don't need a spin doctor, the gullible fans do a good job for them.

Players voting on signing players, what absolute nonsense, oh but it's a one off because of the circumstances, give your heads a shake ffs!


It's so easy to create rumours and they become 'facts', seems most fans here can't wait to lap it up.

^This guy

So what part of the rumours actually have any semblance of facts about them, any of it?
Everything, has been a rumour, all of it, the club can say whatever they like to suit an agenda, so called events are 'accidentally' let slip to someone they know will start the rumour mill within a matter of hours it's taken as gospel, this includes HDM representatives.
At present we aren't signing anyone, least of all Carney and if Micheals has these 'rumoured' visa issues who the hell would want to take him, why would Cas want him.
But yeah, well done D&GM on your counter argument to prove your point.

Why are you so angry?

a strike centre first

Should that a priority above a hooker or a winger though?

None of us can be certain of course, but with us having Michaels, Naughton, Talanoa and Lancaster in our squad as wingers, I'd expect Fonua to be earmarked as a centre.

Logan in the other centre position, and I'm pretty happy with that.

No point getting a centre if the ball doesn't get to him quickly enough.

Nobody is saying any of the rumours are facts from what I can see. People are just addressing their potential validity and what it might mean. Doesn't necessarily mean people believe them to be true.

The only facts that are known are that we've sold Westerman and we've not signed Carney. Now we may sign him, we may sign someone else, we may sign nobody. Who knows. I don't. And if anyone else does can they tell me the numbers for the next EuroMillions draw please?