Forgot to say our backing up is still shocking. 2 or 3 times pryce got his hands free in the tackle and no one there to pass to

yes, it was like he'd forgotten he wasn't at Saints anymore! he'll have to get used to the FC way

No doubt that Green and Bowden are nowhere near as good as Paea and Watts. Maybe we should organise the interchanges so we always have one of our best props on if possible.

Definitely need improving. Halves are fine, need a platform and runners.

These two need to have massive seasons if we are to continue with them and I just don't see that they will - never been a fan of either. Give them a few more games to see if they can up it and if not then let HTW have a go

harry tyson wilson will never be a good enough prop to replace green and bowden

I said we were light in the props dept pre-season unless these two kicked on, just hope Watts stays injury free or we are going to be in bother.

Great effort all round. Average with ball in hand - needs improving. Nothing between the two sides over the game but we are less effective when our bench prop rotation comes on.

Don't think there forwards as a pack where any better than ours.

That would be a bit random, unless you mean [iBobby[/i Tyson Wilson.



Props are still a bit of an issue for me.

Solid effort, very strong defence and good go forward, I wasn't confident when I saw the team's, just lacking that bit of skill in the backs at the moment, our attacking kicking game was very hit and miss (Sneyd was hit and miss also, need some great thing including his defence, but also some poor options and kicking). Though Pryce, Mini and Paea were excellent, I'd look to either swap prop rotations or bring back Feka. Although with the injuries this disrupted our subs as Thompson ended up at centre at Whiting FB. I thought Cunningham did pretty well in his short spell.

I actually thought Warrington probably deserved the win as they were slightly the better side, they offloaded more than us, backed up well (Our biggest issue) and created more chances.

Thought the officials did very well and let the game flow, happy with the performance at this stage of the season and with the team we had out, but disappointed we couldn't at least sneak a point.

Stats show we have more of the ball, but only made 2 breaks compared to their 6, also 4 offloads to their 13.

We still looked a little lost at times with our 6th tackle option .

I am willing to put that down to the upheaval in the combos with the fullback centre wing n 2nd missing. Combined with being 2nd game

I got some real encouragement from last night's game. We were playing one of the favourites for the title with some of our top performers missing and then to lose Shaul and Westie during the game was a real blow. They probably just about deserved the win but although disappointed with the result, I certainly aren't downhearted.

Mixed feelings on that, but overall definitely pleased. A few cases of our play almost being there making it all the more frustrating to just fall short:

Great how we controlled so much possession and position, but frustrating that we still can't turn that into enough points.
Great how patient we were for a lot of the game in building pressure, but frustrating that we still aren't quick enough with our PTB & distribution to then stretch them enough.
Defence absolutely superb for so long and only conceding 7 points against a top attacking side is marvellous, but then it's frustrating how relatively cheaply we gave those 7 points away and how they were enough to see us lose the match.
Great to see us looking so organised (thank you Pryce), but frustrating that that still doesn't include enough runners or support play.

Our poor PTB speed is a real problem though, and when combined with a weak support/offloading game too it will just kill us against the good sides.

Personnel wise, largely a team performance but agree with the calls about Minichiello and Paea, Cunningham did better than I expected, as did Whiting. Much better than last year at centre, but then shone more when he covered fullback IMO, barring one error.

So overall, all FC fans should be happy that we appear to be making progress, but a few of the recent problems are still there and need to be next on the list to fix. We huff and puff well, but still struggle to blow the house down.

Totally agree about Pryce and Sneyd on the night, but still like the fact that Sneyd has a go at the unpredictable sometimes. Would rather have a half who's not afraid to try something if he thinks it's on than just play the percentages every time (as long as he doesn't pick silly situations to try them in, which he didn't).

Definate progress,a very even game which we could have won.
How Jordan Thompson never attempted to move his arm to ground the ball for a try ill never know.
Would like to see Pryce run with the ball more,and im beginning to warm to Sneyd who is not afraid to try something different.
the big worry for me is Bowden and Green.We lose a lot of impact when these two are together on the field.
Bowden continues to miss tackles and should have buried Clarke after he initially broke the line to score.
The problem is Feka is great going forward but we lose something in defence when he is on the field and Bowden and Green are hit and miss.Radford is obviously aware of this and no doubt will continue to rotate 2 of these 3 to try and up their games.

I thought Cunningham was great when he came on and certainly didn't look out of his depth

Well i have to eat humble pie i thought you'd bought too many journey men, your coach was pap and you'd be pants this year but so far 3 halfs of rugby you've not conceded a point and only 1 try in the the 4th.

My predictions will be well off now, Defence wins games more than offence top 5 easily if you play like this all season.

I thought cunningham did OK and gave us a bit of a lift when houghton had been flagging. Disappointed that bowden hasn't kicked on. He looked really good early last season but seems to have gone backwards since he signed his new contract. green not up to it IMO. He's massive and should be much better than he is.

We seem to be playing a pretty conservative style for the most part (lowest number of errors in the comp) which is fine for me if we can continue to defend well as the chances will come and we won't be playing warrington every week. If (and it's a big if) we can maintain the discipline (lowest number of pens conceded in the comp) then we'll go much better this season than I thought and should be in the top 8 come the split. Interesting that our number of carries and the number of tackles we've made are both 2nd in the comp which must mean that the ball has been in play longer in our games than average meaning our fitness levels must be good.

Great start which we need to keep up

A big part of that is the signings of pryce and minichello. Previously, if we'd lost ellis we'd have gone to pieces but seemingly not now

Tackle stats are done by adding up everyone's individual tackles rather than just tackles complete. So if it's a two man tackle its counted as two tackles in the team stats. So it could just mean we are getting more men in the tackle than most teams.

highlights up on the SL youtube channel, looks like Evans did score.

did it show if Houghton "looked like" he was off-side towards the end of the game?