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| Quote ="Mr Incredihull"The trouble with Seymour is that as one of the pivots in a team he has to be a bit better than average (which he is)its like he cant be arrsed,its just gunna get embarassing for him unless he pulls his finger out.Total waste of money'"
Maybe he can't 'd' because he has been treated so poorly during the off season. Seymour is a cut above anyone else at your club in his position. I think Gentle is mad not to play him, unless there are off the field issues.
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| Quote ="joburg"Maybe he can't 'd' because he has been treated so poorly during the off season. Seymour is a cut above anyone else at your club in his position. I think Gentle is mad not to play him, unless there are off the field issues.'"
Has to be something else going on. He's been 1st choice half back at 3 NRL clubs so it easily capable of doing a job in SL
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| You could certainly see why his attitude wouldn't be great, how many of us would be happy being publicly deemed not good enough by the owner. Then watch as your company openly tries to replace you for the best part of six months.
But his attitude is right, according to Gentle. I think his confidence is non-existent and probably struggles with motivation, which plain and simply is Pearson's, Gentles and McRae's faults.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You could certainly see why his attitude wouldn't be great, how many of us would be happy being publicly deemed not good enough by the owner. Then watch as your company openly tries to replace you for the best part of six months.
But his attitude is right, according to Gentle. I think his confidence is non-existent and probably struggles with motivation, which plain and simply is Pearson's, Gentle and McRae's faults.'"
and a group of myopic narrow minded fans!!!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You could certainly see why his attitude wouldn't be great, how many of us would be happy being publicly deemed not good enough by the owner. Then watch as your company openly tries to replace you for the best part of six months.
But his attitude is right, according to Gentle. I think his confidence is non-existent and probably struggles with motivation, which plain and simply is Pearson's, Gentles and McRae's faults.'"
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Seymour wasn't very good last season and if they hadn't tried to replace him, fans would have been on their backs for not addressing the weaknesses in the squad.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Seymour wasn't very good last season and if they hadn't tried to replace him, fans would have been on their backs for not addressing the weaknesses in the squad.'"
Precisely. If Seymour's attitude is right, and we've been told it is, then he should be considered for selection and in fact should be selected as a straight swap for another half.
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| Quote ="Standee"and a group of myopic narrow minded fans!!!'"
Oh lets all get behind him then.......................
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Seymour wasn't very good last season and if they hadn't tried to replace him, fans would have been on their backs for not addressing the weaknesses in the squad.'"
Rubbish, there's ways to do things, and in the newspapers and press conferences isn't the best.
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| Quote ="Mr Incredihull"Oh lets all get behind him then.......................'"
why not?
until he plays then you can't form an opinion on him, we missed DJ badly on Saturday and Horne/Heremia isn't the answer.
I get behind any player in a B&W shirt, even the rubbish ones.
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| Quote ="Standee"and then gave us another season of Horne to look forward to!
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Horne's been playing well. What's your problem? Blinded by attitude which obviously too stubborn to change.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Horne's been playing well. What's your problem? Blinded by attitude which obviously too stubborn to change.'"
No, been watching him not being good enough for a long time now, we've needed halves since the Boulevard.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Rubbish, there's ways to do things, and in the newspapers and press conferences isn't the best.'"
It could have been handled a lot better and even I can understand that publicly trying to replace him wasnt the best way of handling things but Hull will have to give him a chance to prove himself or get rid through pay off,this isnt good for the player or the club
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| Quote ="Standee"No, been watching him not being good enough for a long time now, we've needed halves since the Boulevard.'"
Judge him on how he's playing now, which is pretty good.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Quote ="Rock God X"Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Seymour wasn't very good last season and if they hadn't tried to replace him, fans would have been on their backs for not addressing the weaknesses in the squad.'"
Rubbish, there's ways to do things, and in the newspapers and press conferences isn't the best.'"
Are you able to answer any post without being aggressive/combative?
Whilst I'd take the point that publically deriding a player probably isn't the best course of action, it would have been extremely difficult for the club to go all out to sign another halfback without anything appearing in the press.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"which is pretty good.'"
still only average, not good enough for a top 4 side, which is what we were promised.
giving him another year shows a lack of either ambiiton, or available alternatives.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Quote ="Standee"No, been watching him not being good enough for a long time now, we've needed halves since the Boulevard.'"
Judge him on how he's playing now, which is pretty good.'"
Yep. Since Cooke left, Horne has been asked to play in a style that doesn't suit his natural talents. He's not an organiser, and he's not a kicker (though he did quite well last night), yet he's been forced to undertake those roles far too frequently over the past few years.
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| Quote ="Standee"Quote ="tommyfromhull"which is pretty good.'"
still only average, not good enough for a top 4 side, which is what we were promised.
giving him another year shows a lack of either ambiiton, or available alternatives.'"
If we are able to sign a top HB for next year, Horne will make excellent cover along the back line. If not, and if he and Holdsworth stay fit, I reckon their partnership shows enough promise for this not to be the end of the world.
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| Quote ="Standee"still only average, not good enough for a top 4 side, which is what we were promised.
giving him another year shows a lack of either ambiiton, or available alternatives.'"
He's been better than average, many gave him MOM already this season, he was good last night and showed he does have a kicking game. With an actual 7 he shows his true game.
Giving him an extra year proves we want experience and depth in the squad, we sign another half for next season he won't start, which Horney fully understands.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Yep. Since Cooke left, Horne has been asked to play in a style that doesn't suit his natural talents. He's not an organiser, and he's not a kicker (though he did quite well last night), yet he's been forced to undertake those roles far too frequently over the past few years.'"
Quote ="Rock God X"If we are able to sign a top HB for next year, Horne will make excellent cover along the back line. If not, and if he and Holdsworth stay fit, I reckon their partnership shows enough promise for this not to be the end of the world.'"
Exactly.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Exactly.'"
Keep accepting mediocrity, I'll leave this one (again).
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Are you able to answer any post without being aggressive/combative?
Whilst I'd take the point that publically deriding a player probably isn't the best course of action, it would have been extremely difficult for the club to go all out to sign another halfback without anything appearing in the press.'"
It's difficult to detect tone in the written word.
I'm glad we agree about Pearson's little outburst.
It's not that Seymour knew Hull was trying to replace him, it's the fact that everybody knew and the club did nothing to even attempt to be subtle about it.
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| Quote ="Standee"Keep accepting mediocrity, I'll leave this one (again).'"
I'm not blinded by previous opinions of players. Horney has had a decent start to this season. If he drops in form, then he should be dropped from the team. Open your eyes.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I'm not blinded by previous opinions of players. Horney has had a decent start to this season. If he drops in form, then he should be dropped from the team. Open your eyes.'"
My eyes are open, have been for many years.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Quote ="Rock God X"Are you able to answer any post without being aggressive/combative?
Whilst I'd take the point that publically deriding a player probably isn't the best course of action, it would have been extremely difficult for the club to go all out to sign another halfback without anything appearing in the press.'"
It's difficult to detect tone in the written word.
I'm glad we agree about Pearson's little outburst.
It's not that Seymour knew Hull was trying to replace him, it's the fact that everybody knew and the club did nothing to even attempt to be subtle about it.'"
It's very rare in professional sport these days for players to be brought into clubs without something getting into the press beforehand. And, as I alluded to before, I think AP et al were keen to demonstrate that they had recognised the weaknesses in the squad and were attempting to rectify them. Had they been more discrete about their search for a halfback, you could bet your life that there'd have been plenty of fans complaining about it.
So they're faced with a choice of trying to search very quietly for a new HB (which would have been difficult anyway) and risking upsetting fans, or searching very openly and upsetting the player they were trying to replace.
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