He is being loyal to a friend which is understandable, and this should be respected and admired by others, not sure it will be on here though.

I’m waiting for the ‘Sweepstake for the next underwhelming Head Coach’ thread.

I too wish you had been right. Like I said, I would have preffered a scenario whereby I was eating humble pie cooked by posters such as yourself whilst we celebrated becoming Champions.

Whatever side of the fence we were on during this endless argument last year, I think we are all suffering tonight. It doesn't make me feel any better because of what I said last year. Tonight was garbage and the immediate future doesn't look any better. I'm pretty sure that you, me and every Black & White is in a despondent mood tonight.

Why do you think I am still up at this hour?

Yes very despondent....but at least we can come on here and tear strips out of each other to ease the pain

Could have been worse, we could have won 18-6 or something similar and some serious crack papering would have gone on. Maybe the blessing in disguise is that a result like this well and truly exposes those cracks.

As soon as we went 6-0 down and reverted to one man rugby, that was it. I said to my brother in law that, unless we come out in the second half and score 40 tonight is it for Agar.

I have never heard a crowd reaction like the one at the end of tonight's game in 30+ years of supporting FC. If the Board and Mr Agar don't smell the roses now they never will.
Our coach has been in charge for how long? 3 years? We are seeing no improvement whatsoever in tactics or interchanges. Tonight his subs where an absolute joke, and in my opinion stopped the flow of our game.
I have really hoped that he would do well, but enough is enough, it's time to go!

2008 errors 293
2009 errors 302
2010 errors 314

This board is still very active for half-one in the morning. At least we're all singing from the same hymn sheet now. Pity the tunes so crap

Is there some irritating moron on a microphone telling us to keep singing every few seconds?

Long had done nothing and needed to earn his place back. Bench for long, and should have started with Obst IMO

Harlequins RL away and Castleford Tigers at home up next for you guys, two of the in form teams this season, will be hard to win one of those. Bradford Bulls in a few games, two points guaranteed there

You know what, I'm normally a peaceful sort of chap but I could have swung for him tonight. Even my mate who operates on a fairly even keel shouted at him to shut the f*** up. It almost made me wish we had that blonde woman back (well, not really).

My cousin said the same. Ideally we would turn up at 7.59 and be subjected to neither of their cringe worthy pre-match attempts.

Well said. Mrs B called me mad or insane a year ago because I was saying we were going backwards under Agar and had peaked whilst teams around us would improve. We needed then , and before , and certainly now a root and branch change in our coaching structure. We need people in charge who have the respect of the wider international game not a Dewsbury illiterati. The amateur pre match version of what the "Bulls" brought to SL 10 years or so ago makes me cringe and is divisive amongst the FC supporters at best. It demonstrates the same utter lack of understanding about what we want as fans and reflects the same disregard in what we need in a management structure and what we need on the field. Believe me the "almost 4th" was as good as it was ever going to get under Agar. Last year I stopped at Agar , now I have to include the board unless they act to remove him and his coaching team in order to restore at least some hope.

Something has to change that's for certain!

Fairly straight forward isn't it. Sack the coach, recruit a quality coach not cheap options.

Not just the head coach, they all need to go, Last & Webster too.

Yup. Entire fresh start needed.

Sadly they'll probably give Webster the job based on him potentially stepping in to cover for Agar when he gets sacked and winning a game.

We should have done this when Sharpe got the bullet. What a wasted opportunity that was. The sad thing is that plenty of us could see that giving Agar the job and leaving everything else untouched was the wrong option.

Not sure where we go from here TBH. The BOD have so much support invested in Agar that it's difficult to see them sacking him soon enough to save this season. And I have zero faith that they'll make the correct choice of successor.

I'm at my lowest ebb since the Lloyd era. Truly depressing.

Next coaching appointment is absolutely crucial.

Aim high and we could be looking at a Warrington style renaissance, go for a cheap/uninspiring option and we risk falling futher behind the top clubs with plummeting attendances and consequently a downturn in the strides we have made off the pitch.

I agree that a complete restructure of the coaching staff is required.

So if Agar did get the sack who would offer him a job? Answer that question and it will probably tell you how good a coach he is.

Those were my sentiments even before Agar was appointed. My gut feeling in May 2008 was we had missed a chance to appoint a proven winner. I was unconvinced by Agar's credentials from day one and I think this has been what has informed my antipathy to the situation from day one. Even last year with the marginal improvements which appeared to take place, I couldn't shake off the feeling we had taken an almighty wrong turn somewhere down the line.

This really is a depressing day for us all.

championsip, theres no way he would get a super league club and contract