Agree about Whitehead, should be starting in front of both Farrell and Tomkins, best player in the Play-offs for me

He is. But never done it at this level n we can't rely on him to play or play fit. Made of buscuit. If I was a Wigan fan I'd rather o loughlin retired from this level n got truly rested n fit for what are now longer seasons. Also if I was a Wigan fan I'd of prefered Tompkins to have had an offseason to get back upto speed as he wasn't up to the standard he was before union.

o Laughlin is overated,a poor mans paul sculthorpe.

o'laughlin is a really good player, but as mentioned above, never done it at international level and not had the best season with injuries etc if im correct in saying.
why not give westy ago. 'lesser' opposition good way to bring into the international team.

he's not overrated, sometimes i despair at some of the comments about non FC players on here. he is an excellent player with a proper rugby brain - something that a lot of modern players lack. the problem with him is as others have said, is that he is nearly always carrying injuries and has to be nursed through seasons. a fit o'loughlin would be an asset to any side. good as westerman is, he's not yet in this class

well done to hodgson as well as westerman, he's deserved his chance too

Can't argue with that. reckon this might actually be O loughlins last tour.

O'Loughlin's a cheap-shot merchant, head-high, grapples, you name it. A decent player but niggly and always will be. Plus, his body doesn't really seem cut out for it - especially against big, South Sea Islanders.

Good luck to Westy, he's really turned his career around and deserves that shirt.

Hull FC captain, Joe Westerman, according to Look North. Mentioned 3 or 4 times.

Game live on bbc2 @ 06:30 Saturday morning.

Our second row looks weak to me

it should be enough to see off samoa - might need to strengthen for the next two games - farrell is fine - good defensive player which we will need against NZ and Aus. get whitehead and o'loughlin back in and it won't look too bad - westerman could still get a bench spot if o'loughlin comes back - in case he breaks down mid game

Good on him, a well deserved international cap.

Considering the time between tours, he'll probably be in his 50's come the next one.

Jesus!! Are some on here really trying to say Westerman is better than O'Loughlin?

Westerman has had a better season, but certainly isn't a better player.

This ^^^^^ x2

+1. But it's Wigan's style, lately. He carries it out perfectly, and has a lot of skill to go with it. I think that style of play is bad for the game, but you've got to accept that it gives his side an advantage...and that's what he's paid for.

No, not one. HTH.

Can posters stop using the + sign before a number!!!
Drew Peacock will sue for copyright infringement.

You've been warned.

What does hth mean ?

It means "happy to help". hth!!

Cheers mate

+1

Actually, its 'Hope This Helps' HTH

Hold the Horses please