I don't, the middle eight are the eight teams below the top four, perhaps I worded it incorrectly.

And it wasn't an argument.

Exactly, this ^

You noticed the spamming of several threads too!!

He needs to worry a bit more about his teams trip to Bower Field this weekend after the same team handed them their @rses in the cup a couple of years ago.

Really like this side, tough on Masi though, but already 2 props on the bench it makes sense.

Personally I'd have Abdul over Lane, not sure why he isn't in the 19 again, I'm not sure he will be here next year.

Also as much I like Litten and cane see the potential, it showed last week he isn't quite ready, Houghton coming back on, won us the game last Thursday, he really controls the team in defence and attack.

Mint's impact off the bench also shows the value of spelling him.

This for me too. For the first time since he retired, we had a bit of what Gaz brought us when he used to return onto the field, that grunt to see us home. We all know Danny is capable of playing the full 80, but with Washy's tackling prowess, I think we get more from Danny when he's had a recharge.

We need Kelly back at his best, as others have said, I wonder if he knows he's heading off at end of season. All speculation.

Need someone to step up though, can't have the level of drop in performance we saw last week when houghton went off, no ones going to be like for like , he's the best hooker in the league . But someone needs to come on and at least keep the ship steady

Yeah, I agree with that and we were lucky that we were playing Widnes and not a better team. Jez will only get better with game time though and he certainly has the potential. It's hard to bring the young lads through without causing form to take a nose dive in the process.

Personally I think he's carrying an injury, that's what it seems like to me anyway.

Roby is the best hooker in the league.

Of course he his . Wouldn't swap him for houghton ever

possibly, we don't have a replacement.

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Don't mind us fumbling our way through the season at this point. Its more important we come in at the at the business end of the season with a wet sail.

A more optimistic set of fans would be saying "we are finding a way to win" / " we are not playing well but getting over the line"

We have a lot of pessimists following our club.

And trophies are not handed out in April

I’m very confident we’ll pick up a win tomorrow.

I don’t think Hull are in danger of playing in the middle 8’s, but at the same time don’t think you’ll trouble the top 4. Destined for a 5th, 6th or 7th place finish.

Backed Tul's to get a T-R-Y at anytime, at evens.
Go on my son.

Abdull likely to go out on loan again with Logan

The issue is that if you don't perform to a half decent standard throughout the season you're not in with a chance of being in the mix at the business end of the season. We've lost 5 already which leaves us potentially 6 points behind 3 clubs . It doesn't look to me like the bottom teams will take too many points off the top teams this season so we're in a position where we can't lose that many more for the rest of the year or we won't be in the top 4. I already think it's looking unlikely we will be at the split unless we go on a long unbeaten run.

The good news is we have a high number of home games in the 2nd half of the season so a good opportunity to claw our way back into the mix

Leaves us short on numbers if we get some more injuries. Hopefully we're bringing someone in

As I said on coffee ladies doom and gloom thread, last year we lost 11 and made third, we lose toay it makes it harder, however some are on suicide watch, you only need see the reaction to losing to top of the tree saints with 5 big names missing and an in game injury we had to cover, ridiculous negativity!

Someone on fb saying Green injured. And Logan.

I think the bottom sides are weaker this year and 2 or 3 of the top sides look better (saints, wire and wigan) so I don;t see 11 losses being good enough for 3rd this year. I don't think we will make the play offs this year