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| Like people are saying, it happened two weeks ago, it will take another two weeks for him to get here, so it will only be another few weeks in which he will need to get fit. Weve waited this long so its not all bad.
If we can get into the top 8 and get our injured players back we stand a chance.
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| Quote ="Karen xx"Totally agree, would it have killed the club to tell us what was going on???
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It was well known a few weeks ago that his first application had been rejected.
Maybe time for another Rule Tube interview to give us all the facts
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| it says because he his using his Tongan passport he had to sit an english exam .His agent did not know this when the 1st form got sent through
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| Quote ="dravid67"it says because he his using his Tongan passport he had to sit an english exam .His agent did not know this when the 1st form got sent through
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After the experience of all clubs with getting their overseas players' visas before we signed Lauaki, we should have been all over his application process and documents. I don't care who's primary responsibility it was to fill the forms , we should have overseen it.
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| Quote ="dravid67"it says because he his using his Tongan passport he had to sit an english exam .His agent did not know this when the 1st form got sent through
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And i guess the club did neither
Oh my mistake, its not there job is it
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| Quote ="Maxi Mc"Like people are saying, it happened two weeks ago, it will take another two weeks for him to get here, so it will only be another few weeks in which he will need to get fit. Weve waited this long so its not all bad.
If we can get into the top 8 and get our injured players back we stand a chance.'"
Big IF! Stand a chance of what? The way Wire and Wigan played on fri, we'll be very lucky making the top 8.
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| I already knew about Lauaki's first application being sent back. The news broke some weeks ago and I thought it had been discussed on here before? Didn't Rule make some vague reference to it during one of his media appearances?
As far as checking the forms is concerned, I understand that all visa applications will now be forwarded to the club to be checked over before submission. Kinda late locking the stable door, but at least we should have some better procedures going forward.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"After the experience of all clubs with getting their overseas players' visas before we signed Lauaki, we should have been all over his application process and documents. I don't care who's primary responsibility it was to fill the forms , we should have overseen it.'"
I agree. And apparently that is now the case. Quite why we had to wait for a second application process to go pear-shaped is beyond me TBH.
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| Quote ="Bandito"I reckon a few Wakey fans will argue they have had much, much worse this season mate'"
Absolutely mate,nothing can compare to that.
On topic,I like the first three lines of the news piece.
Who knows?,he could have been playing for us now,and been injured first game.These things are sent to try us.
In the words of Joan Baez"We shall overcome,we shall overcome,we shall overcome some day."
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| Quote ="Kosh"I agree. And apparently that is now the case. Quite why we had to wait for a second application process to go pear-shaped is beyond me TBH.'"
because we ar FC
PS GOOD LUCK TO CITY TODAY
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| Quote ="Kosh"I agree. And apparently that is now the case. Quite why we had to wait for a second application process to go pear-shaped is beyond me TBH.'" TBF, what was wrong with luaukis application wouldn't of been a problem with crockers regarding the English test.
Things like this are gunna keep cropping up for all clubs unless the UKBA provide some sort of dossier detailing the full application process.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"TBF, what was wrong with luaukis application wouldn't of been a problem with crockers regarding the English test.
Things like this are gunna keep cropping up for all clubs unless the UKBA provide some sort of dossier detailing the full application process.'"
UKBA had a meeting with theRFL 18 months ago and laid it down straight. The issue is that FC will not take advice (even when offered for free) on how to go through the process, they are that pig headed!
Maybe he punched a window out of frustration when he realised he was coming to a poor team with a shoite coach?
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| Absolutely sick of this !!!
Bad news after bad news - links to the fans absolutely disgusting - only place I have seen reference to Visa probs. are on here !
Yes we SHOULD have double checked forms - hired an expert to oversee - this is BASIC business - frankly shows the board CAN'T be bothered with the club or us.
Season is over as far as I can see - scrape into the 8 depending on remainder staying fit, Berro returnining & Luaki contributing at some point. Best we can hope for is a scraped win - no chance of shaking at least 4 teams this year. GF is a distant pipedream second season running.
Wire crowd pretty low - expect us to slip below 10.000 pretty soon & stay there. Pass sales to follow suit.
Dejected REALLY dejected.
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| Lauaki's manager must surely be acting as the clubs agent/go between, and he said that he didn't realise that Hame had applied with his Tongan passport. He applied way back in February not long after Crockers first refusal (on different grounds) to what Lauaki was refused for, if it was discussed on here about Lauaki's refusal then I missed it.
Surely on the original application it asks the question where were you born, and as he was born in NZ (could be wrong) but at least raised and went to school there that would be a very big clue that he could speak English.
I blame his manager for not overseeing the application properly, and KH for not allowing that information to be released and the news of his injury, JR only says what he is told to say by KH.
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| Quote ="al283"Absolutely sick of this !!!
Bad news after bad news - links to the fans absolutely disgusting - only place I have seen reference to Visa probs. are on here !
Yes we SHOULD have double checked forms - hired an expert to oversee - this is BASIC business - frankly shows the board CAN'T be bothered with the club or us.
Season is over as far as I can see - scrape into the 8 depending on remainder staying fit, Berro returnining & Luaki contributing at some point. Best we can hope for is a scraped win - no chance of shaking at least 4 teams this year. GF is a distant pipedream second season running.
Wire crowd pretty low - expect us to slip below 10.000 pretty soon & stay there. Pass sales to follow suit.
Dejected REALLY dejected.'"
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| Sounds like there is a good opportunity for someone to take up as a "Visa Consultant" - there are plenty of those with extensive knowledge of everything on here (apart from Wolfie as we all know what he knows....), but joking apart do the ice hockey team in Hull have as many problems, couldn't we ask for their services to oversee visas etc., a "new and exciting partnership" with the Stingrays?
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"Sounds like there is a good opportunity for someone to take up as a "Visa Consultant" - there are plenty of those with extensive knowledge of everything on here'"
there is one of them already, he has offered before too for free
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| Quote ="Hutchie"there is one of them already, he has offered before too for free
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and he just got a FLAT(man) refusal!
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| Quote ="Standee"UKBA had a meeting with theRFL 18 months ago and laid it down straight.'"
Although either the RFL didn't understand what they were told or things changed following the meeting. The advice passed on by the RFL to the clubs turned out to be inadequate.
Quote ="Standee"The issue is that FC will not take advice (even when offered for free) on how to go through the process, they are that pig headed!'"
No excuse for that kind of attitude at all. You would have thought that a lesson would have been learned after the Crocker application highlighted the complexities of the system.
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| It`s about time the Club Chaplain banished the evil spirits from the KC .
Then when Kath and co have left our luck might change !
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| Now on the [url=http://www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=3492Hull FC website[/url.
Quote This injury has required surgery and Hame will be in a cast for a number of weeks.'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Now on the [url=http://www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=3492Hull FC website[/url.'"
Seeing that it happened 2 weeks ago, doesn't come across that we're up to speed with what went on or what the recovery time is. *Sighs*
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| Quote Chief Executive James Rule said: “ in the short term this is going to prevent Hame being able to play.'"
Well that and him not having a visa and being over here might have something to do with it too
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Obviously the boards and Rules fault.'"
Well if he was signed pre season he might have been here by now..........
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Well if he was signed pre season he might have been here by now..........'"
During the season.
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