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| Quote ="Darkside Dave"I heard That Washy has a new one year deal on half money with a place on the coaching staff for 2020. Apparently Radders was not in favour but him and Lasty had a few heated words and this was the end result. Obviously I wasn't in the room at the time. It's just what I've been told. I think Mini could be on his way. What is he, 36?'"
I find it hard to believe radford would re sign a player he didn't want just because andy last did want him.
I thought mini had a really strong running game last night but remains to be seen if he can stay fit. Certainly looks in better shape than many players younger than him
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"It's is last tackle stupid penalties he gives away that destroys me about him , cut them out and stupid big hit miss tackles he attempts and sticks to the simple stuff done well, he could do ok'"
He also clocked off on occasion but I think a lot of that was fatigue as he generally played the full 80. Needs to play wide out for me where he could be really good but I suspect he'll play down the middle and rotate with hadley
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I find it hard to believe radford would re sign a player he didn't want just because andy last did want him.
I thought mini had a really strong running game last night but remains to be seen if he can stay fit. Certainly looks in better shape than many players younger than him'"
Rather have mini in the coaching set up
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He also clocked off on occasion but I think a lot of that was fatigue as he generally played the full 80. Needs to play wide out for me where he could be really good but I suspect he'll play down the middle and rotate with hadley'"
Yeh I do to, just need to give him simple instructions , run hard , tackle hard , look for an off load , I don't want to see him with ball in hand in set plays to often , tried and tested , he's not good enough
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I find it hard to believe radford would re sign a player he didn't want just because andy last did want him.
I thought mini had a really strong running game last night but remains to be seen if he can stay fit. Certainly looks in better shape than many players younger than him'"
Can't disagree with you Jake regarding Mini's form. Like Ellis, a consummate professional. As you say, keeping him fit is the key. I would imagine there's a little more to it but it's good to know that they have such a strong working relationship. Sometimes at the top you need a strong right hand man and to be able to concede the odd point if it's the right thing to do.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Rather have mini in the coaching set up'"
He's not going to want to hang around here though. he'll go back to oz and get a job easily
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He's not going to want to hang around here though. he'll go back to oz and get a job easily'"
Can't blame him, hull or the Gold Coast hmm let me think !
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| He needs to be told to run for the posts and not appoint himself as first receiver on every play. Just hope Radders can manage him well enough to get him fitting in with our style.
Two significant benefits to him coming back are he was always a vocal presence in the pack which we seem to be missing when Taylor is off/blowing.
Second is his absolutely massive boot, although I'm not sure he'd be much better than Connor at goal kicking.
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| I'm just going to put my trust in AP, LR and Gaz Ellis
I've had that much egg on my face over the last four years, I should know better by now.
Radders can't be that much of a bully, and he must be generating a good atmosphere at the club, as ex players are eager to return and play for him.
Abdul hasn't convinced me to be honest. As JTP alluded to, he's caught between being a back and a forward and is not convincing as either.
Anyone who spits their dummy out won't last long at FC now.
The deal is all in our favour so we have nothing to lose. Hope he gets fit and does the business for us.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"I'm just going to it my trust in AP, LR and Gaz Ellis
I've had that much egg on my face over the last four years, I should know better by now.
Radders can't be that much of a bully, and he must be generating a good atmosphere at the club, as ex players are eager to return and play for him.
Abdul hasn't convinced me to be honest. As JTP alluded to, he's caught between being a back and a forward and is not convincing as either.
Anyone who spits their dummy out won't last long at FC now.
The deal is all in our favour so we have nothing to lose. Hope he gets fit and does the business for us.'"
Yeh agree about Abdul , looks better at been a big fish in a small pond , rovers is a good fit for him
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Yeh agree about Abdul , looks better at been a big fish in a small pond , rovers is a good fit for him'"
Been told leeds want him back but can't see it myself although his best game for us was at headingley
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| I wonder if cas are about to sign jackson hastings?
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"It wouldn't surprise me if the next announcement is Abdull has signed for Rovers.
Very disappointing if it happens.'"
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Yeh agree about Abdul , looks better at been a big fish in a small pond , rovers is a good fit for him'"
Big fish in a small pond is a phrase a couple of people said to me today about Abdul.
He has got talent, but no one can say he's impressed enough to nail down a position in the first 17.
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| Quote ="bonaire"expect the announcement next week'"
We have 3 better half backs and 3 better back rowers so he was always going to be a bit part player at Hull but will be first 17 at rovers so good luck to him. He's at the stage where he needs to be playing every week but not sure he's SL standard just yet
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I find it hard to believe radford would re sign a player he didn't want just because andy last did want him.
I thought mini had a really strong running game last night but remains to be seen if he can stay fit. Certainly looks in better shape than many players younger than him'"
Mini is better when he his rotated.I like the idea of using Griffin,Mini, and Manu as the rotated second row
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Yeh agree about Abdul , looks better at been a big fish in a small pond , rovers is a good fit for him'" Small pond? They remind me more of a puddle.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We have 3 better half backs and 3 better back rowers so he was always going to be a bit part player at Hull but will be first 17 at rovers so good luck to him. He's at the stage where he needs to be playing every week but not sure he's SL standard just yet'"
I think he is SL standard and I hope he signs for us he does come across as a bit of a baby if things aren't going his way I think ,he went well for us as he was a main player last year and I think he enjoyed been that and I he went back expecting to be in your 17 when in fact he doesn't seem any further on and now you've signed Westerman he will spit his dummy out
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| Pretty happy with the Westerman deal. On his day he is a very good player.
The pressure is on him to perform and earn a longer term contract. If he disappoints then we haven't lost out in any way.
With Mini and possibly Manu leaving at the end of the year we need to recuit in the back row and quality players are hardly falling from the tree.
As has been said we should trust Pearson, Ellis and Radford's judgement. Some fans were concerned about Kelly joining the club and he has settled in perfectly.
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| Little risk on our part.
If he knuckles down and plays well then we have a decent replacement in the back row.
If he doesn't then we simply don't extend his contract.
Shrewd move imo.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I think he is SL standard and I hope he signs for us he does come across as a bit of a baby if things aren't going his way I think ,he went well for us as he was a main player last year and I think he enjoyed been that and I he went back expecting to be in your 17 when in fact he doesn't seem any further on and now you've signed Westerman he will spit his dummy out'"
He's definitely not consistently SL standard but at 22 you wouldn't expect him to be and it won't come until he plays week in week out in an environment where maybe there is less pressure to perform to be in the 17 each week. At Hull one bad game would see him out whereas at rovers there is probably less due to the lower quality of the squad
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| Blunderside interview with westerman [url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p064xw16HERE[/url
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Pretty happy with the Westerman deal. On his day he is a very good player.
The pressure is on him to perform and earn a longer term contract. If he disappoints then we haven't lost out in any way.
With Mini and possibly Manu leaving at the end of the year we need to recuit in the back row and quality players are hardly falling from the tree.
As has been said we should trust Pearson, Ellis and Radford's judgement. Some fans were concerned about Kelly joining the club and he has settled in perfectly.'"
I'd offer manu whatever it takes to keep him , is he a marquee player, you bet your ass he is , get him signed up rapid
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| I for one am pleased with this news. The Player and The deal is pretty much perfect for us.
He'll bring the leadership on the field we've missed without Ellis. Just needs to get himself back upto speed now, and away we go.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Little risk on our part.
If he knuckles down and plays well then we have a decent replacement in the back row.
If he doesn't then we simply don't extend his contract.
Shrewd move imo.'"
Credit to westerman to , knows the risk of playing poorly and not having a sl club next season, would of been easier for him to sign longer contract elsewhere. Good sign
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