His Stats back him up that he is still producing the goods so until a dip in his form I will gladly give him the benefit of the doubt.

Wigan have got plenty of quality and im sure bringing in even more so some good uns have to be released its as simple as that. Regarding his injury he seemed pretty upbeat on the wigan website about getting over his problems. Im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but I agree he wouldnt have been one of my signings

In that case ding dong

You're not just jumping on the bandwagon are you Paul haha

I remember Wolfie and perhaps Paul as well been very confident that Chase was coming to FC.

OK, here's a challenge for you to convince me: There are 30 teams in the NRL and SL combined, let's say 4 first team props. So that's 120 props between them. So see if you can name me another 22 props who played at their peak at 33 or over, and let's say within the last ten years to make it a fair career-span length.

EDIT: Also, Cusack's stats were cracking before he came over. 18 months later he was pretty much washed up.



Well what do you expect him to say when he's out of contract, really? "Well, I'm glad to be back at the minute, but I'm pretty sure it'll be temporary 'cos my body's f**ked"?

I posted 10 pages back about O'Carroll and Lynch.

Never mentioned Bridge, don't think its happening. Shillington I memtioned 6 months ago but can't see it coming off with the other two props signing. Overseas spot for a centre.

If your body is fooked up you would just retire and do something else.

bloody hell I aint going to spend hours trawling threw stuff to see if i can name that amount of players and im sure people would have different opinions if they was in form or not. Fact is other props have done it so you cannot say he wont do it just because of his age. Players are looking after there bodies alot more these days and can play longer if they so wish to. If there was younger top class props we could go after and could get them under the salary cap im sure pearson and co would do. Obviously there isnt so they have or are trying to get Lynch. The problem with most fc fans is they always find the negatives ...ellis to fat ....o'carrol not going to play hardly anygames....bridge is over-rated although plays for one of the top 2 teams in the league and is an England international

. The thing people dont get is there is a salary cap we cannot just go and buy everyone like wigan used to do. And like most people have said im sure there is still at least an overseas signing to come so we have to be patient. I still say more important then if any of these signings are going to come off or not is getting rid of Agar as until he is gone we are going knowhere.

Quote ="carl_spackler"OK, here's a challenge for you to convince me: There are 30 teams in the NRL and SL combined, let's say 4 first team props. So that's 120 props between them. So see if you can name me another 22 props who played at their peak at 33 or over, and let's say within the last ten years to make it a fair career-span length. EDIT: Also, Cusack's stats were cracking before he came over. 18 months later he was pretty much washed up. Well what do you expect him to say when he's out of contract, really? "Well, I'm glad to be back at the minute, but I'm pretty sure it'll be temporary 'cos my body's f**ked"?'" Just for you to read www.nrl.com/golden-oldies-why-36 ... fault.aspx

Quote ="carl_spackler"OK, here's a challenge for you to convince me: There are 30 teams in the NRL and SL combined, let's say 4 first team props. So that's 120 props between them. So see if you can name me another 22 props who played at their peak at 33 or over, and let's say within the last ten years to make it a fair career-span length. EDIT: Also, Cusack's stats were cracking before he came over. 18 months later he was pretty much washed up. Well what do you expect him to say when he's out of contract, really? "Well, I'm glad to be back at the minute, but I'm pretty sure it'll be temporary 'cos my body's f**ked"?'" Just for you to read www.nrl.com/golden-oldies-why-36 ... fault.aspx

Depends if you can do something else, or can accept the fact that your body's not up to it. Or if somebody's daft enough to offer you a contract.



My suggestion was more about the fact that if it was at all commonplace for props to play on at top form for as long as you keep suggesting, 10 years' worth of rugby would give you plenty of examples to choose from. The fact of the matter is, most start to decline shortly after 30 and retire or drop down the divisions before they hit 35. It isn't impossible Lynch will play past 34 and still be playing well, but the law of averages says it isn't likely either.

Totally agree about Agar, I think it's now a case of the majority do.

Yes but we are looking at lynch for 2 years I would have thought. And Im convinced he would still do us a very good Job and a pack with Moa,Ogre and Lynch is a pretty dam good pack.

Also if u look at other positions as well like the lockyers and stacey jones there is a lot of players playing longer now. I agree alot of players wont be as good as they was went they was say mid twenties but some are still very good and do a Job. Look at fitz im sure he was much better in his twenties but he hasnt let us down in the 2 years he has been here.

Quote ="Tongan Mafia"Just for you to read www.nrl.com/golden-oldies-why-36 ... fault.aspx'" That's still the same examples of Civoniceva and Price, with a back now thrown in. The rest are still under 34, so let's see if Hindmarsh and Ryles make it past that yet.

Quote ="Tongan Mafia"Just for you to read www.nrl.com/golden-oldies-why-36 ... fault.aspx'" That's still the same examples of Civoniceva and Price, with a back now thrown in. The rest are still under 34, so let's see if Hindmarsh and Ryles make it past that yet.

I've said all along that the addition of Lynch would give us a good set of props for next year, I don't know why you keep reiterating the point, it's not in contention. My point is precisely that he will only last 2 years, so if he costs a decent fee we'll be overpaying, and we look like having a distinctly short-lived pack.

The way Agar has treated him I can hardly blame him

I agree he will probably last 2 years but I dont see a point in that. If our coach and Pearson cannot get younger props in 2 years then we will have a problem but I dont see them struggling. Plus Pearson will get the cheque book out if he needs to so im not worried that we will get just 2 years out of him.

Fitzgibbon lends himself more to my view than yours. Has done everything he can to keep himself in the best possible shape, but realises at 34 that his body has had enough.

Yes but he hasnt let anyone down has he ? He has still done a job for us and didnt we sign him and he played for us at 32 the same age Lynch will be?

My point is that Lynch could have two very good years left in him and if we can get them at fc I will be over the moon I for one am not bothered over his age. I would be more worried if it was a back as the older they get they lose there pace.

If I'm honest here, I think you're being pretty out of order to Pearson. You seem to see him as some sort of a sugar daddy and keep saying he'll just get the cheque book out, that's unappreciative, undervaluing, and dismissive of the potential risk he's taking to run our club. He's not here to splash money around left, right, and centre, nor is it in the best interests of the club long term. I'd sooner he left us operating as a self-sufficient entity and didn't go down the silly-spending route.

And I don't see why you think we'll attract props no problem. Last close season we were after new blood there and missed out on several on the market, bringing nobody new in in the end. That's why I'm worried, because British players are now more desirable to clubs, and we have a habit of missing out when it comes to hot properties on the market. Whether that was entirely due to the previous board's frugal nature avoiding bidding wars, I don't know, it just concerns me if we have a lot of rebuilding to do all at once.

Bloody ell, been busy on here tonight!

Lynch I would be happy with. A leader and a good prop in a team.
O'Carroll I'm not too sure about. Made of biscuit for a start, and why would Wigan get rid if he wasn't good enough? We'll see.

As for Bridge, he has really impressed me over the past couple of seasons, before that I thought he was an over-rated poser. Can't see him coming at all though.

And for the Gasnier, he's just played SOO ffs. Of corse he's still good enough. But another who won't be coming here.

Good to see hairy chests are back in. Unfortunately beer guts don't seem to be. Yet.

Seriously, please get this point, I'll put it in capitals and everything:

[size=150I AGREE THAT LYNCH WILL BE A GOOD SIGNING FOR US FOR 2 YEARS.[/size

Got that bit? Right, here's the next bit: IMO, if a player costs a significant transfer fee (i.e. 50k or more), he should have more than 2 years left in him or be one of the very best players in the world, otherwise you're basically paying £25k+ a year more than he's worth. It also coincides with nearly all of our pack being out of contract and around retirement age. Signing/developing a full pack in 2 close seasons is possibly giving us too difficult a challenge to achieve.



And yet the link you provided had more backs than forwards in it I believe.

So lets buy them before they are ooc then if they are that good if not then we will try and get them when they become ooc. Pearson is no idiot and I know he will only get the chequebook out if he can afford it. But he has already stated he isnt scared to get the cheque book out. We will need to buy players early doors because we are not an attractive prospect over the likes of a Wigan or Warrington. But if they see the team with quality in the squad and are competing and become a consistent top four club and get to finals then Pearson wont need to get the cheque book out as top players will want to play for Hull as they know that they would have a great chance in winning some trophys. The last few years its been come and play for Hull under Agar and the board not really an attractive proposition. People where writing off ogre when we signed him there isnt many calling him past it or injury prone now.

Yeah crazy that more backs play longer but hey ho...Yes I know u have said that Lynch will be good for 2 years so have I so dont really get the point tbh lol apart from im willing to pay to get him where you say its bad buisness to pay over 50 k for him. If pearson is willing to pay vast amounts of money for average footballers im sure he will be quite happy to pay peanuts for quality players.

1, It's not his money at City.
2, Football has a proper transfer market, so they can also sell players to recoup money.
3, Football has much more income to finance the spending.
4, In relative terms, they've spent very, very little for this season.

Don't recall anyone writing O'Meley off because of his age, I remember people being worried that we'd signed someone who hadn't yet recovered from knee surgery.