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| Some would say that the RFL manipulated things so that the proper champions (being the best overall in a league season after playing everyone) have next to no reward/respect or fanfare.
In essence a mini knock out/cup competition constructed for the financial benefit of the broadcaster and governing body is now deemed to be decider as to whom are 'champions'.
I still think the current system is badly flawed, I'm all for a straight knock mini cup comp along the lines of the old premiership but not to decide whom gets the title and prestige.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Some would say that the RFL manipulated things so that the proper champions (being the best overall in a league season after playing everyone) have next to no reward/respect or fanfare.
In essence a mini knock out/cup competition constructed for the financial benefit of the broadcaster and governing body is now deemed to be decider as to whom are 'champions'.
I still think the current system is badly flawed, I'm all for a straight knock mini cup comp along the lines of the old premiership but not to decide whom gets the title and prestige.'"
If we were not a cash-strapped sport, then maybe. But at the end of the day, there's very little money being made in rugby league. There are very few opportunities for big club events that fans will turn up for in numbers.
The Premiership Final only got about 30-40k. The Grand Final gets 70k. The sport needs events like that.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Some would say that the RFL manipulated things so that the proper champions (being the best overall in a league season after playing everyone) have next to no reward/respect or fanfare.
In essence a mini knock out/cup competition constructed for the financial benefit of the broadcaster and governing body is now deemed to be decider as to whom are 'champions'.
I still think the current system is badly flawed, I'm all for a straight knock mini cup comp along the lines of the old premiership but not to decide whom gets the title and prestige.'"
Interesting fact - over the entire history of RL the Champions have been decided by a playoff system more often than by coming top of the league. It's actually the more 'traditional' method.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Some would say that the RFL manipulated things so that the proper champions (being the best overall in a league season after playing everyone) have next to no reward/respect or fanfare.
In essence a mini knock out/cup competition constructed for the financial benefit of the broadcaster and governing body is now deemed to be decider as to whom are 'champions'.
I still think the current system is badly flawed, I'm all for a straight knock mini cup comp along the lines of the old premiership but not to decide whom gets the title and prestige.'"
Very few sports decide the champions by a league system now. Domestic football being the exception, yet even that is now moving towards that with the league increasingly becoming a method of qualifying for the Champions league. The world cup, Euro championships are all leagues that head into a play off type competition. The vast majority of the rest of sport, RU, NRL, NFL (all american sports) etc are all decided on play offs.
I agree a bit more should be made of the hub cap and to the winners it will be rightly lauded but it is often derided by the rest of the league. No one really cared when Hudds won it but I bet Hudds did.
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| Quote ="barham red"Very few sports decide the champions by a league system now. Domestic football being the exception, yet even that is now moving towards that with the league increasingly becoming a method of qualifying for the Champions league. The world cup, Euro championships are all leagues that head into a play off type competition. The vast majority of the rest of sport, RU, NRL, NFL (all american sports) etc are all decided on play offs.
I agree a bit more should be made of the hub cap and to the winners it will be rightly lauded but it is often derided by the rest of the league. No one really cared when Hudds won it but I bet Hudds did.'"
im sure another team, possibly leeds/wigan or saints demanded some kind of recognition for finishing top after the regular season finished and along came the hubcap, so its obvious they cared
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| Quote ="number 6"im sure another team, possibly leeds/wigan or saints demanded some kind of recognition for finishing top after the regular season finished and along came the hubcap, so its obvious they cared'"
The team that wins it will care and as I said there should be a level of recognition but it is pretty much ignored and unremembered unless you go on and win the GF. I'd bet you'd gladly take 4th and a GF win over the hub cap and out in the first eliminator.
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| Quote ="barham red"The team that wins it will care and as I said there should be a level of recognition but it is pretty much ignored and unremembered unless you go on and win the GF. I'd bet you'd gladly take 4th and a GF win over the hub cap and out in the first eliminator.'"
No chance.
4th, GF win and CC win please
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| Quote ="barham red"The team that wins it will care and as I said there should be a level of recognition but it is pretty much ignored and unremembered unless you go on and win the GF. I'd bet you'd gladly take 4th and a GF win over the hub cap and out in the first eliminator.'"
Unfortunately this ^^^^^^^^
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Unfortunately this ^^^^^^^^'"
whilst he may have a point, finishing top could be financially beneficial
a game vs the aussies in the WCS
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| I don;t want us to finish top. 2nd would do just fine. Winning the hub cap is a means to an end, not the end itself and we could easily blow up in the play offs like hudds did when they finished top. Anyway, I expect wigan or wire to finish top
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don;t want us to finish top. 2nd would do just fine. Winning the hub cap is a means to an end, not the end itself and we could easily blow up in the play offs like hudds did when they finished top. Anyway, I expect wigan or wire to finish top'"
i think there maybe a bit of gamesmanship come the end of the 8s, if its the same top four now, will some teams 'play' so they avoid another team in the semi finals?
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| Warrington back top tonight. Didn't want this but nice seeing Leeds beaten again eh, kr to 10th though as Salford are winning.
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| It was a fun week though. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Warrington go top again.
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| Back to the top in nineteen hours, fingers crossed.
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| I thought I'd be bored of watching Leeds fall over each other to miss tackles by now but I'm still laughing
We'll be back top soon enough
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| leeds are an absolute shambles but will still probably do the double on us
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"leeds are an absolute shambles but will still probably do the double on us'"
The more players they get back from injury the worse they get
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"The more players they get back from injury the worse they get'"
Nailed on for 12th this year with you and widnes in the bottom 4. Other place up for grabs
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Nailed on for 12th this year with you and widnes in the bottom 4. Other place up for grabs'"
Reckon table won't change too drastically now and Salford and Huddersfield will end up scrambling for 8th.
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| Quote ="number 6"whilst he may have a point, finishing top could be financially beneficial
a game vs the aussies in the WCS'"
The discussion is about finishing top after the regular season not after play offs.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"The discussion is about finishing top after the regular season not after play offs.'"
Maybe so but it should also count towards being considered when rfl are choosing teams to take part
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| Our most points after sixteen rounds since reaching Super League.
Equalled last year points total with fourteen games to go.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Equalled last year points total with fourteen games to go.'"
Wow - didn't realise that. I wonder if we will actually properly click at some point this season and give somebody a real good hiding?
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| We've played 4 of 11 return fixtures so far (won them all) against the teams in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th. Good effort.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We've played 4 of 11 return fixtures so far (won them all) against the teams in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th. Good effort.'"
3 home games left vs widnes kr and leeds. would like to think we will get maximum points from those
4 away, wire, cas, hudds and salford, 2 wins from those will hopefully see us stay top
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