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| Quote ="PAUL M"But he is not playing poorly, he has made the odd error as mentioned above. So has every other player tbh.'"
I have to disagree about him playing poorly and hes made errors in almost every game iv seen this year...i dont get all this scapegoat stuff aswell...there has been threads about how poor other players have been including dowes,horne,long,lauaki etc...
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"I have to disagree about him playing poorly and hes made errors in almost every game iv seen this year...i dont get all this scapegoat stuff aswell...there has been threads about how poor other players have been including dowes,horne,long,lauaki etc...'"
Sharp is an easy target for criticism at Hull because a) he's new, b) he's young, c) he's a winger. Plenty of players have made mistakes, but Sharp has consistently been at the brunt of it when a lot is not solely down to him.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Sharp is an easy target for criticism at Hull because a) he's new, b) he's young, c) he's a winger. Plenty of players have made mistakes, but Sharp has consistently been at the brunt of it when a lot is not solely down to him.'"
Longs not young,new or a winger but hes had a fair few critics on this board...it feels as though some on here are being abit protective over sharp for some reason....who has ever said that us being poor is all solely down to him?? I think youl find alot of fans say that would be mr agar.
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"Longs not young,new or a winger but hes had a fair few critics on this board...it feels as though some on here are being abit protective over sharp for some reason....who has ever said that us being poor is all solely down to him?? I think youl find alot of fans say that would be mr agar.'"
He was new to the club when he got his stick, which has been ongoing until now.
Some have talked about our comparatively weak right side defence on here as if it were all Sharp's fault.
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| WILL SHARP ..will cost your more games .. than games you will win because of him....THINK THE LAD SHITE to be honest
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"He was new to the club when he got his stick, which has been ongoing until now.
Some have talked about our comparatively weak right side defence on here as if it were all Sharp's fault.'"
I know im going around in circles but the point im making is like iv previously stated hes not the only one to get stick on here...dowes,horne,long,lauaki to name a few.....he certainly isnt being made a scapegoat by me and when it comes to me slating players im the first that hopes im proved wrong but up to now i am underwhelmed by will sharp.
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| Ijust wondered if any of you who know such agreat deal about coaching and reffing have ever thought of taking up the sport, the pay is very very good.
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| Quote ="jampot"Ijust wondered if any of you who know such agreat deal about coaching and reffing have ever thought of taking up the sport, the pay is very very good.'"
Only ten minutes after another 'contributor' posts on another thread: Quote ="Dibs XIII"Can't say I would mate, wouldn't want to be as bad as Child, I know my limitations unlike you, who obviously thinks could do a better job than Agar.
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Another cretin thinks the 'you couldn't do any better line' is worth adopting as their own.
If the main criteria for discussing/debating anything was 'could you do better yourself?', then 90% of the conversation in the world wouldn't take place.
The fact you don't realise that singles you out as a real halfwit.
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Only ten minutes after another 'contributor' posts on another thread: Another cretin thinks the 'you couldn't do any better line' is worth adopting as their line.
If the main criteria for discussing/debating anything was 'could you do better yourself?', then 90% of the conversation in the world wouldn't take place.
The fact you don't realise that singles you out as a real halfwit.'"
=#FF0000There is no need to be abusive!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"=#FF0000There is no need to be abusive!'"
Ok, sorry for calling him a halfwit, however accurate it may be.
Seriously though, what goes through people's heads to come on a discussion forum and start saying 'oh well could you do any better?'.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Ok, sorry for calling him a halfwit, however accurate it may be.
Seriously though, what goes through people's heads to come on a discussion forum and start saying 'oh well could you do any better?'.'"
I always find Quartwit a more useful term!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He has made one or two errors, the winning try at Wigan he was at fault for and he dropped an easy kick against Cas that led to a try. The problem is fans keep thinking he is out of position but he is iften left out on a limb by Whiting and the defenders inside him. He takes the ball up often and well and when he's had scoring chances he has taken them.'"
Some people say that Whiting reads the game better than anyone in the team.It certainly does'nt look like it when he is leaving his winger exposed.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Some people say that Whiting reads the game better than anyone in the team.It certainly does'nt look like it when he is leaving his winger exposed.'"
Was thinking that yesterday actually but didn't want to say anything for fear of Whiting related repercussions. I thought back to 2005 when Blacklock got loads of stick, who was his centre for most of the season.
FWIW Whiting is probably hung out to dry by Tickle inside of him who in turn is hung out to dry by Horne or Long inside of him. The Blame will ultimately stop with the hooker in the middle.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Some people say that Whiting reads the game better than anyone in the team.It certainly does'nt look like it when he is leaving his winger exposed.'"
Maybe Whitings best posiution is a ball handling back row forward like Peter Sharp tried turning him into after all
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Maybe Whitings best posiution is a ball handling back row forward like Peter Sharp tried turning him into after all
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Amen! Anyone with eyes can tell that Rich Whiting is not a centre. The only position where he'll flourish is at 13. He'll do a job to the best of his ability and pace where ever he plays but it's looking increasingly that he'll never get the chance in his proper position. I think he's had a rough deal at FC , he always seems to be scrambling to get a contract for one year but does everything he's asked to do without sulking regardless of how it affects him. Compare the way he's treated with some others.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Was thinking that yesterday actually but didn't want to say anything for fear of Whiting related repercussions. I thought back to 2005 when Blacklock got loads of stick, who was his centre for most of the season.
FWIW Whiting is probably hung out to dry by Tickle inside of him who in turn is hung out to dry by Horne or Long inside of him. The Blame will ultimately stop with the hooker in the middle.
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Just out of interest, why did you 'fear Whiting related repercussions'?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Just out of interest, why did you 'fear Whiting related repercussions'?'"
Because he is untouchable on here. He's been poor since he moved to centre, can't think of many that have been as consistently anonymous. The sooner we sign Gleeson the better.
I'd move him back to FB tbh, Phelps has been poor too.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Because he is untouchable on here. He's been poor since he moved to centre, can't think of many that have been as consistently anonymous. The sooner we sign Gleeson the better.
[uI'd move him back to FB tbh, Phelps has been poor too[/u.'"
Agree with that.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Because he is untouchable on here. He's been poor since he moved to centre, can't think of many that have been as consistently anonymous. The sooner we sign Gleeson the better.
I'd move him back to FB tbh, Phelps has been poor too.'"
That's what I thought.All this pressure on Sharp is unfair because the man on his inside is the golden boy at Hull. Don't get me wrong, I rate Whiting really highly and really like him as a player, but simply saying Whiting's best position isn't centre therefore it's ok for him to not be great there isn't good enough.
Phelps will get better, had a much better game last week and will continue to improve IMO.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"That's what I thought.All this pressure on Sharp is unfair because the man on his inside is the golden boy at Hull. Don't get me wrong, I rate Whiting really highly and really like him as a player, but simply saying Whiting's best position isn't centre therefore it's ok for him to not be great there isn't good enough.
Phelps will get better, had a much better game last week and will continue to improve IMO.'"
What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.'"
That I'm not sure of. He is a great bench player, but I do think he has deserved a starting spot.
He has trained all pre-season at centre and that is the position he has been given this season. He should be experienced enough to know how to defend at centre by now.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What is Whiting's best position though? Ask 10 people you'll get 10 different opinions. Mine is that he's the perfect bench player.'"
Thats whitings problem..jack of all trades, master of none...and a right slug of a runner aswell...id probably say fullback!
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| In answer to the topic title - no, but I bet Sharp will drop the ball
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"That I'm not sure of. He is a great bench player, but I do think he has deserved a starting spot.
He has trained all pre-season at centre and that is the position he has been given this season. He should be experienced enough to know how to defend at centre by now.'"
But you don't deserve a starting spot just on effort and being a nice lad. If I was pushed to give him a position it would be FB.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"But you don't deserve a starting spot just on effort and being a nice lad. If I was pushed to give him a position it would be FB.'"
No I think he deserved it due constistently impressing when he played and giving his all in every game. Like I say, I aren't doubting his ability, but when he is performing poorly fans are actually scared of calling him incase more fans get on his back!
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