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| Just been announced we're merging
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Apparently its to discuss the implications of the new league set up. A member of the RFL is supposedly coming along to speak.'"
Is it jake or sir stan ?
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| 3 Aussie players will be coming in - Beau Champion is NOT one of them.
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| Thought pearson spoke well tonight.especially about gary hetherington and how much london and bradford being relegated will help, as the 2 were big supporters of hetherington and it will even the bias up.
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| Quote ="weaver93"3 Aussie players will be coming in - Beau Champion is NOT one of them.'"
Jennings, Hodges and Gallen then.
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| I couldn't make it but I watched it and the question I wished was asked was why the hell are the top 8 in SL keeping their points after 23 rounds if we are going back to a top 4 playoff?
Look at this season as a example.
Position 8 is on 21 points and position 4 is on 30 points (That is only going to get wider from now until the end of the season). So the team in position 8 would need 4 more wins and a draw from 3 homes games just to draw level with the team in position 4.
It's just not going to happen so it's going to be no less pointless for teams after the split then it is now with 7 games to go for most.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I couldn't make it but I watched it and the question I wished was asked was why the hell are the top 8 in SL keeping their points after 23 rounds if we are going back to a top 4 playoff?
Look at this season as a example.
Position 8 is on 21 points and position 4 is on 30 points (That is only going to get wider from now until the end of the season). So the team in position 8 would need 4 more wins and a draw from 3 homes games just to draw level with the team in position 4.
It's just not going to happen so it's going to be no less pointless for teams after the split then it is now with 7 games to go for most.'"
Because leeds won't be 8th
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| Went tonight and was very sceptical about the whole thing but found it pretty entertaining and informative. I have watched bits of it again on FC TV and have to say that the dynamic of the two owners is very interesting, there is rivalry but a collective will to see a fair crack for this end of the M62 and it was clear to me that both are obviously making the best of a structure for 2015 that neither of them looked to have wanted. While the fan are still finding much of it all quite baffling!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Because leeds won't be 8th'" Well true.
You can see what is going to happen now though.
A team will scrape the 8 know they have no chance of the 4 and just prat about until the season ends.
My idea would have been that they keep the points difference (You would expect teams higher up to have a better one) and get an extra home game if they really want it to be 'every moment counts' or what ever it was.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Well true.
You can see what is going to happen now though.
A team will scrape the 8 know they have no chance of the 4 and just prat about until the season ends.
My idea would have been that they keep the points difference (You would expect teams higher up to have a better one) and get an extra home game if they really want it to be 'every moment counts' or what ever it was.'"
For both our teams we have mediocrity only to look forward to. The end. Merge
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| Anyone got a link to the forum, as missed it due to been away?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Well true.
You can see what is going to happen now though.
A team will scrape the 8 know they have no chance of the 4 and just prat about until the season ends.
My idea would have been that they keep the points difference (You would expect teams higher up to have a better one) and get an extra home game if they really want it to be 'every moment counts' or what ever it was.'"
Suppose the idea is that with increased competitiveness, there won't be such a gap. I personally think everything should be wiped out and start again, the original top 4 have an extra home game, don't see the problem.
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| To suggest that Bradford were supporters of Hetherington is ridiculous. Pearson stated that they were supporters of the RFL, I actually feel that Neil had a better take on this when he said that the whole sorry saga needed putting into the public domain.
The new structure is crazy, how can you have a middle league of 8 where 4 of those teams are operating with almost an extra £1m of resources?
I am all for more meaningful games but I just can't see this system delivering it. I don't think there has been any detailed research into the system and as such it is folly to push it onto all of us. To say it was voted in by the clubs is to insult our intelligence as we all know that Nigel and the RFL just forced it through.
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| Quote ="el red"To suggest that Bradford were supporters of Hetherington is ridiculous. Pearson stated that they were supporters of the RFL, I actually feel that Neil had a better take on this when he said that the whole sorry saga needed putting into the public domain.
The new structure is crazy, how can you have a middle league of 8 where 4 of those teams are operating with almost an extra £1m of resources?
I am all for more meaningful games but I just can't see this system delivering it. I don't think there has been any detailed research into the system and as such it is folly to push it onto all of us. To say it was voted in by the clubs is to insult our intelligence as we all know that Nigel and the RFL just forced it through.'"
If you are a championship club though, it at least gives you a chance, and put it this way, I would not be confident of beating some championship clubs!! (£1m extra or not!)
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| Quote ="*1865*"Suppose the idea is that with increased competitiveness, there won't be such a gap. I personally think everything should be wiped out and start again, the original top 4 have an extra home game, don't see the problem.'"
If things were wiped down to 0 points for the top 8, then like Anakin says, teams guaranteed to be in the top 8 early on will stop playing and wait for the split.
Keeping points and points differences going into the top 8, mean that every game in the regular 23 games is counting towards finishing as high as posible and making sure you're in the top 4.
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"If things were wiped down to 0 points for the top 8, then like Anakin says, teams guaranteed to be in the top 8 early on will stop playing and wait for the split.
Keeping points and points differences going into the top 8, mean that every game in the regular 23 games is counting towards finishing as high as posible and making sure you're in the top 4.'"
Yep, that's a fair point.
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| Quote ="el red"To suggest that Bradford were supporters of Hetherington is ridiculous. Pearson stated that they were supporters of the RFL, I actually feel that Neil had a better take on this when he said that the whole sorry saga needed putting into the public domain...
... To say it was voted in by the clubs is to insult our intelligence as we all know that Nigel and the RFL just forced it through.'"
I'm guessing pearson was alluding to the fact that Bradford were supporters of the RFL and their bed-partner Hetherington out of necessity, the club being beholden to them via the purse-strings attached to Odsal at one end and the RFL at the other. Bradford being miserably linked in the middle by the string looping ever-tighter around the proverbial.
As for Hudge having a better take with his hints at whistleblowing, well did he? Why not take the opportunity last night? I've heard Pearson speak on numerous occasions regarding this particular stitch-up, and his take has always been so frank that the collective intake of breath from his audience lowered the air-pressure by several bars.
On your last point, I think few outside Leeds, Wakey and Widnes would disagree.
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Quote ="heard1989"Anyone got a link to the forum, as missed it due to been away?'"
youtu.be/qzBsO2OiXvY
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| Quote ="Standee"why joint???'"
For a bigger sock fest and both clubs dodge "hard" questions
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| thought Pearson spoke well last night. i agree with him about pass sales for both clubs if we dont back either club we wont have one to follow.yes this season has been poor ,yes we are fed up of promises,yes we want a successful club but unless we stick by the club and back them its never going to happen.
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| Quote ="hokeydokey"thought Pearson spoke well last night. i agree with him about pass sales for both clubs if we dont back either club we wont have one to follow.yes this season has been poor ,yes we are fed up of promises,yes we want a successful club but unless we stick by the club and back them its never going to happen.'"
I don't think using threats is a valid marketing tactic!
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"No busmans holiday, to sennen cove.'"
Give my regards to Jessica Fletcher.
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| Quote ="Plateface"Give my regards to Jessica Fletcher.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Be boring if she's there!'"
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| Thought it was a very good forum especially for a joint effort . Love the bit about a couple of other clubs growing some balls
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