Got to agry but why we don't just kick ball dead from our own half annoys me at least they all have to go back and play the ball from the 20 while we are prepared for it .
Saying this as see only way to put telling kicks in.

Supporting the ball-carrier. And I think Houghton's long kicking game could also be used more. Done a few 40/20s IIRC.

More push to attract and fix defenders and give the ball players more options.

I'd of hoped that was covered in the basica!



1 or 2, good point. He has done it once or twice this year iirc, but probably not enough.

More than one runner for the ball would be a refreshing change.

Like Mrs B states, Support play is a must and is such a basic part of the game it's sad that we don;t see it.

Would also like to see our attacking line deeper, it is flatter than our defensive line the majority of the time.

I'd agree with that, think we also need to use players in their correct position, use the pivots more in attack to give more optioins going forwards, better rotation of the bench!

When are you applying for the Head Coaches job?

The sad thing is most supporters can see these glaring problems, so surely Agar can as well. The same problems we have had for a long time yet we see nothing happening to rectify them.

Agree with all of the comments on here (especially Jakes

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I'd also add that when we have the gameplan, wait till the coaches have left the dressing room before the game, then rip it up, flush it down the loo and go and play off the cuff, instinctive rugby.

Everything here is spot on, especially the positional side as Westerman is waste as a 2nd row.

We need to run a second phase more than anything IMO, Although this would probably come under the basics

Exactly, he was signed as a LF so why play him as a SR and then complain that our pivots aren't working for us at the minute, they won't if they're not in the right position

But Westerman isn't a pivot,have you been watching the game for the last two years?,can you tell me,the Cas fans and T.Materson when Westerman was the pivot for Cas,he is a wide running second rower and an average one at that,oh, and one that can't tackle.

I'm sure that's the case. Thanks.

Oh and just so you know, he'll be used as the link out wide not a central pivot.

Is it or isn't it,whats your opinion,mines on record,what's your's.

My opinion is that hes very good at ghosting through gaps and has good hands, starting him at 13 gives him freedom of movement, he can attack down both sides and can get quicker ball to our wingers.
It all depends on whether he's used correctly.

Amen.

Something that i expect Horne and Phelps to help with.

Praying?

Agreed.

And for the recipe to work we need better concentration for the full 80 minutes.

I disagree with you coach Carter. How about good old fashioned get to the 5th tackle with one man hit ups and then a good kick and chase. That's how we're supposed to play, right??

youve got to think that if we can do the basics right, such as 5 good strong carry's and then a good kick at the end, then that should stand us in good stead.....
its not a hard complicated game, so why try to complicate things.......

These are the big four for me. I would also add support play to this and not only from breaks but there should be a push on almost every play as sometimes the push is what creates the break.

Defensively if we have better line speed and improve our technique (easily said I guess) then we would be a solid unit.

Offensively is we can learn to find our feet quicker and push on plays 2-5 and support any breaks then should be able to score more points more easily.

The kicking game can win and lose you matches and right now ours is awful.


It's funny (well it's not actually) but watching Andy Last in the U20's video his team talk before the game was absolutely spot on. He watlked about intensity, technique, pushin on every play etc etc and seemed to be saying exactly what we bang on about on here.

The speed of our passing is pedestrian. Look at how fast teams like Wigan, Wire and Saints move the ball along the line compared to us. This is obviously achieved through plenty of hard work on the training ground and appears to be a skill that the team don't seem to practise. The better teams have their attacking lines more organised; they run from deep, hit the ball at pace and support the man with the ball. Our attacking line is shallow and all over the place organisationally. And, as has been mentioned, our support play for the ball carrier is pathetic.