What would be the point in that technology? The VT ref is not allowed to call a forward pass.

if there is no video ref then theres no unfair advantage

then the 2 touch judges(ahem) would be put to better use than just jogging up and down the touchline and maybe waving the flag every now and then(more then than now).

as for the touchies, you can forget about them improving anytime soon. as there all about 40+...cant keep up with play, have no say in any major descion thus letting teams get away with "line balls" at every ruck.......
senior and hall have an art at throwing momentum balls....what a load of e our touchies are

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Don't you not think that if they can get the technology right, the VR might just be able to adjudicate on forward passes?

Personally I have yet to see any benefit from having two refs on the field but what I would like to see is a greater level of communication between the ref & TJs.

Many problems are caused by the referee's ego. I've had experience of a referee telling me "anything you see come on and I'll back you up" - that is always dangerous. I've also had one Grade 1 telling me that as the match was televised, all he wanted me to do was mark touch. When one player nearly had his head taken off, the ref came over and asked what I saw, I told him I'd not seen anything because I was too busy marking touch, as per his command. I subsequently wrote a letter to Fred Lindop, letting him know exactly what went on. The ref in question never got another top game that season and retired early at the end of it.

And you know all this how?

Thought not

No unfair advantage with video ref, it doesn't seem to be doing much for the Catalans does it and they have it for every home game.

Touch judges regardles of it being a tv match or not are very reluctant to become involved.... however due to the modernisation of the game and refs and touch judges being linked through mics/earpieces it is sometimes hard to know if they are interacting or not. I did enjoy the sets they sold at Murrayfield which allowed you to listen to the ref etc not sure if they will work at normal SL games though.

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I didn't say I was against it. Hang on though, I'll double check...

Nope, definately didn't say I was against.

Thank you for the longer then usual hello though. And some good points in your reply which I fully agree with.

I'd like to see the touch judges more involved but i think eventually , we will see a two ref system which has worked fairly well in the NRL.

2 refs is much better. The biggest enemies of open play are the wrestle at the PTB and offside. To expect one man to monitor both is asking too much of the greatest ref in the world, let alone some we have. If we are stuck for a choice then 2 refs are much more preferable. Of course there will still be mistakes but we should get better consistency in how the game is played, the ref won't be drawn into concentrating on the PTB at the expense of offside or vice versa. If 2 refs means no video replay then so be it. The extra help from the replay is a nice luxury but it slows everything down and is hardly infallible or conclusive - I could live without it.

after watching a few nrl games this yr it seems to have speeded up the play,fewer penalties,less time wasting pointless scrums and a better ptb and offside decisions...compared to superleague that is.as for the video ref at sky games only(excluding catalans)it should be all or none IMO.

Has to be worth a look and see how it goes, in the main it seesm to be working in the NRL. Would need more quality refs though and more money from the RFL.

i think they should be allowed to got the VR for a forward pass. If its conclusive dissalow it. if not or a flat pass or too close to call.... then benefit of the doubt. Some passes are clearly forward!

way too much hassle messing about with tracks for cameras to keep up with speed of play and the cost wouldnt be worth it and sum grounds couldnt accomadate the tracks like wakey

i mean just use what we have now. Sometimes its conclusive, if its not then BOTD

Where are all the refs going to come from?
I don`t think there are enough refs in this country at the top level.
As for forward passes on the VT just impose a parallel line across the picture to show if it`s forward or not,same for onside or offside.

Despite Stevo's nonsensical description of the "momentum rule" it is actually possible for the ball to travel forward and not be a forward pass.

and that imo is why we havent made the change yet. We dont have enough quality refs to handle SL as it is never mind needing twice the number.

And that is why they don't allow forwarded passes to be judged on the VR.

I agree , a forward pass is more to do with where the player recieving the ball is stood. If they can`t sort that out , then God help us!
They are all quick to give an opinion on whether or not a man chasing a kick is on or off.

No it isn't. Its to do with the direction the hands are facing when the ball is passed.

The angle and height of the camera, and the relative positions of the players and their "momentum" can be so deceiving on tape, that it is impossible to decide conclusively that a pass is forward. Its going to have to be seriously sophisticated technology that the RFL is developing!

It's a situation were the pair of eyes on the pitch is in a better position to judge. Even with all our Specsavers-dodging refs in SL





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Correct.

i know because i watch the game......how many forwards are given by the touchie? how many try's are disallowed by the touchie or awarded even? not many...
youve only got ato look at when someone makes a break, there nowere in sight which allows players to throw passses forward etc

we have two lines men they dont seem to do anything maybe an extra ref and get rid of the lines men

i think there are lots of variables on the matter of forward passes offsides etc but i still think 2 refs on the pitch would be better than 1....even if they amount to 1 braincell between em.