I was another who thought getting rid of lynch was massive mistake.

Whitehead is out of contract , we should be making a move for him, keep Feka and Paea.

Props of Paea, taylor, watts, Ellis and Feka.

Totally agree re Whitehead. Taylor looks a bit unfit this year but he's big and aggressive and will improve us no end.

He wasn't the only one by any means.

I still can't understand why we collapsed after a decent first half . Don't think we were as good as some think in the first half , hardly created anything considering the possession we had and how poor Leeds were but the defence second half was amateurish at best not sl standard. Tend not to go overboard after 1 bad result as most teams do have them , but more then usually, especially the top teams always seem to bounce back next game , but we never seem to . Expected it last night after Salford but not expecting it against Wigan as I think as a team were mentally weak minded and the attitude is so far of what's needed to succeed. If we could sort this out , it would help in us moving forward I think , but in players needed to help also I do think we need at least 1 top class centre and some props who will show some consistency game after game not once every 3/4 games . Apart from paea all the rest aren't good enough

We are a good team on paper, haven't decided whether I am going to go to Wigan, will see what 19 Radders names later in the week. We will gel at some point but I just cannot see a top 8 finish. 10/11th and four home games in the 8's will probably be where we'll end up.

If we finish 11th isnt it 3 home games

Correct. The teams that finish 9th and 10th get four home games and three away (as do the Championship clubs finishing 1st and 2nd)

Those finishing 11th and 12th get three home and four away, same as the Championship clubs in 3rd and 4th.

The team finishing bottom of Super League after 23 rounds will be at home to the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place Championship clubs and away to the other three SL clubs as well as the 1st placed Championship club. The team finishing 9th in SL will be at home to the top two Championship clubs and the bottom two from SL.

It's ranked so that the higher you finish the better draw (on paper) you get.

hopefully with no or only minor injuries.

We threw everything at Leeds and still only went in 12 nil up at halftime.
That is nothing against a team like Leeds.
The best we can hope for this season is 4th from bottom.
Until Pearson wakes up to the fact that Radford is not up to it , he may as well set fire to his money !!

Doh, my error. I meant 9th/10th.

Just seen the league table after all games have been played from round 4 - The thread title sums it up completely. Hudds will improve, Cas have a better coach, Salford better players, Rovers better players. Just where is the next win going to come from. Hull FC are a shambles

Back to your usual positive self. The "better players" of the dobbins remain below Hull and there are only 4 teams that are better than 1 win ahead of Hull. If Hudds can improve why can't Hull? A terrible second half in the last game without a doubt but not exactly wrist slashing time yet. How they bounce back on Friday will be a better indication, I'm not expecting a win, even though Wigan have been wobbling of late, but a performance of character after the surrender against Leeds will do.

Couldn't agree more erik

Hudds previous league position under Anderson says they will improve. Rovers were always going to start slowly due to the amount of new players yet already theyre giving every team a game - Once they gel theyll go well. Where do you see the improvement coming from from FC may i ask?

Apart from the sde who are the bookies favourites to finish bottom.

So you're saying every team has improvement in them apart from us, who peaked for 2015 in Round 1?

loL - WELL SAID !

some keyboard warriors just like to moan with every post they make

Warriors - parasites
Potayto - potahto

It's just the beginning of the season for crying out loud. Why are people trying to write us off already when we have only played 4 games which were all quite difficult games anyway. Give it time and see what happens, yes the Leeds result was extremely poor but remember how promising the first half was, as long as we can get some level of consistency, we should be able to do really well.

To me, that epitomises our problems. We regularly turn in poor performances, but as long as there is a temporary response the week after, for many all is forgiven again until the next shocker. We need to start playing close to our potential most weeks and not be happy until that happens, not sit and watch dross and think that as long as we turn up next week to show that they're all sorry 'that'll do'. That seems to be a good chunk of the players' approach.

Please don't think I'm that easily pleased and bought off. Perhaps I should have reworded it that the second half effort against Leeds definitely won't do. For all Wigan's woes I think its a bit optimistic or arrogant to assume that a top effort will automatically beat them.

Oh, I don't think we'll beat them. What I was meaning was that 1 performance of character next time out will not do. We've seen that we can bounce back for odd games, what we need is to see performances of character most weeks, so that we aren't having to bounce back so often.

wigan have been woeful though. Snuck past a huddersfield side we beat the previous week, thrown away winning leads against rovers and widnes and dry humped by cas last Friday. Having said that, a home game against Hull is just what they need to get back on track. Long night for us I expect