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| There doesn't seem to be much love in the room today.
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| Quote ="Standee"Read that again, and see the irony Paul.
He would be very interested, he's the Minister for Spor, it's kind of what he does for a living.'"
Another thread full of Standee friendly quotes and balanced views
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| Quote ="Kosh"Actually, the article only indicates that neither have been in touch with Sutcliffe. Since he points out that this is not under his control anyway, that hard counts as not doing anything.
The RFL and the clubs have been in touch with the Home Office/UKBA/Immigration Department - the folk who actually control what happens.
Having the Sports Minister on side can't hurt, but I doubt it will prove crucial. I also have to question just how effective this guy is if he is genuinely unaware of the issue.
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Pretty much spot on Kosh. But there are posters on here that will blame the club for every thing.It would be refreshing for these to actually compliment the club once in a while as the club are very pro-actiev in many things it does.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"There doesn't seem to be much love in the room today.'"
I blame Calderwood and Tommy Lee!!
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| Quote ="Forever FC"Pretty much spot on Kosh. But there are posters on here that will blame the club for every thing.It would be refreshing for these to actually compliment the club once in a while as the club are very pro-actiev in many things it does.'"
I think we are in a bit of a 50/50 sit rep at the moment and any help we can get would be 100% recieved, but official involvement could be a negative thing as well remember.....!!
It seems to me there is a lot more to this at present as it has now dragged on and on and there has to be either an awful lot of documentation involved or a situation where the dept involved are looking for someone to make a descision ..
but we shall never know till the story breaks until then we are all guessing but given how quickly all the other poor buggers were told the big NO to their quest to play in SL this one is intriguing the longer it drags on.
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| Quote ="Standee"Personally I am quite happy that the Minister for Sport is dealing with the major sports and events (you know, like the Olympics in 2012 etc.) and not being diverted by a minority sport like RL.'"
Which is your right. Personally, I'd prefer the minister paid at least passing attention to a sport of significant importance in his own constituency rather than just take photo opportunities at Odsal.
He should at least be aware of the problem, even if not actively involved in the solution. IMO.
Quote ="Standee"I have no idea, but he'd be a lot more help had we actively engaged him as soon as it was relevant.'"
I have a low opinion of politicians, so my expectations are clearly somewhat lower than yours.
Quote ="Standee"That is your opinion, which is wrong, there is no single relevant minister, when the actions of one department impact on the responsibilities of another then TWO ministers become relevant. You're just sticking up for the club, as is your right.'"
You said THE relevant minister, not A relevant minister. My reply is correct given your starting premise. Not being THE relevant minister is not the same as being completely irrelevant, either. Clearly the minister for sport has an interest in what's happening, but what he doesn't have is any direct power over the decision.
I do, however, take into account what Chris28 says about the UKBA wanting to avoid work, so maybe he might be of slightly more use than the average chocolate-teapot level that would usually apply.
I also find the comment about 'just defending the club' laughable. You've clearly been engaging in the same sort of selective reading that you decry in others if you think that I'm blindly supportive of everything the club does.
Quote ="Standee"You might want to try talking down to other posters Kosh, but it doesn't work with me, I am well aware of the workings of Government thanks.'"
I'm not talking down to you. I used a well-worn turn of phrase, that's all. This isn't the first time you've taken umbrage for no good reason. Chill out.
If I wanted to insult you I'd do a proper job of it and via PM.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"If i were the RFL i would be demanding an audience with both and get them both in the same room to work through a solution.'"
I'd demand an audience with Kosh and Standee.
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| Quote ="davey37"I'd demand an audience with Kosh and Standee.
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I'll see you in Charlie on Sunday then fella, doubt Kosh will be there though
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| Quote ="Standee"I'll see you in Charlie on Sunday then fella, doubt Kosh will be there though
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I'm going to the match thanks all the same.
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| Quote ="Standee"I'll see you in Charlie on Sunday then fella, doubt Kosh will be there though
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Isn't Charlie Cockayne's nickname?
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| Quote ="davey37"I'm going to the match thanks all the same.
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As am I, do you not imbibe before the game?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"If i were the RFL i would be demanding an audience with both and get them both in the same room to work through a solution.'"
The two problems with that are...
1. The RFL are good at hand-wringing but consistently come up short on tackling the hard problems.
2. Unfortunately, RL as a sport is in no position to demand anything and get taken seriously.
Otherwise it's a good plan.
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| Quote ="Standee"Read that again, and see the irony Paul.
He would be very interested, he's the Minister for Spor, it's kind of what he does for a living.'" Sometimes you come across as a needy individual who posts for attention and little else.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Sometimes you come across as a needy individual who posts for attention and little else.'"
really, and I care what you think, because?
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| Quote ="Standee"As am I, do you not imbibe before the game?'"
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Driving and have my son with me.
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| Quote ="davey37"No
Driving and have my son with me.'"
Oh well, another time eh!
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| Quote ="Standee"really, and I care what you think, because?'" Just my opinion, sir. I don't expect you to care as you show no respect for others opinions. I would like to ask you one question - Given your negativity towards the team and your distrust of any non-playing member of our club, why do you support Hull F.C.?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Just my opinion, sir. I don't expect you to care as you show [ino respect for others opinions[/i. I would like to ask you one question - Given your negativity towards the team and your distrust of any non-playing member of our club, why do you support Hull F.C.?'"
That is just blatantly untrue.
I support FC because I have been going to watch them for nearly 30 years, I've met the majority of the non-playing staff, something which a fair few on here have not. I also know how big, successful sporting organisations and operations are run, and see obvious omissions in the way FC are operated.
I don't criticise the club for everything, I just get annoyed when they consistantly shoot themselves in the foot, and it's usually something so easy to avoid.
For example
[url=http://www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=3134Is missing a 't' at the end of bought[/url
It's basic, and it annoys me.
On this specific issue it is more of a concern that the RFL have not involved the Minister.
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| Quote ="Standee"That is just blatantly untrue.
I support FC because I have been going to watch them for nearly 30 years, I've met the majority of the non-playing staff, Window cleaners, Loo brush replacers???
I don't criticise the club for everything,
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| Quote ="Standee" I've met the majority of the non-playing staff'"
Send my regards to Paul King
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| Quote ="Standee"I'll see you in Charlie on Sunday then fella, doubt Kosh will be there though icon_wink.gif'"
Ohhhhhhh.......i got a ban for that.
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| Quote ="Standee"That is just blatantly untrue.
I support FC because I have been going to watch them for nearly 30 years, I've met the majority of the non-playing staff, something which a fair few on here have not. I also know how big, successful sporting organisations and operations are run, and see obvious omissions in the way FC are operated.
I don't criticise the club for everything, I just get annoyed when they consistantly shoot themselves in the foot, and it's usually something so easy to avoid.
For example
[url=http://www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=3134Is missing a 't' at the end of bought[/url
It's basic, and it annoys me.
On this specific issue it is more of a concern that the RFL have not involved the Minister.'" you have blatantly disrespected 4 posters opinions on this thread alone! Also you say you are well aware of the workings of government and the workings a sporting organization, are you John Prescott? It certainly would make sense!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"you have blatantly disrespected 4 posters opinions on this thread alone! Also you say you are well aware of the workings of government and the workings a sporting organization, are you John Prescott? It certainly would make sense!'"
like he does all the time on all threads, his given game in life is to be rude, controvertial, ignorant, and knock everything said if it is not his opinion.
waster!
Glad I am not the only one who is seeing this !!
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