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| Quote ="PAUL M"The thing is we need to be realistic, there is no magic wand and even if he does sack Agar, which I think is inevitable, there is no certainty that it will bring us success.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/ll-make-Hull-FC-biggest-club-Super-League-8211/story-12994917-detail/story.html
Like the sentiment but not the love thy neighbour'"
Don't read more into it that there is, AP has to remain aware of the commercial goings on at City and the KC as a whole, he needs to be seen to be offering an "olive branch" to Hudgell because of the sponsorship of the East Stand, he also want to come across as united in the eyes of the RFL for other commercial plans he has for RL in Hull, it has to be better for us to work with KR when it suits our mutual interests, we can become a strong united vote on all things SL if we keep one another as a minor priority (if such a thing exists), I also think it's a bit of an indication that for too long we've voted and made decisions based on the best interests of L**ds as opposed to what we really believe as a club.
A lot of words will be said over the coming days and weeks, not all of them will be meant as heartfully as they are said.
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| Quote ="Standee"Don't read more into it that there is, AP has to remain aware of the commercial goings on at City and the KC as a whole, he needs to be seen to be offering an "olive branch" to Hudgell because of the sponsorship of the East Stand, he also want to come across as united in the eyes of the RFL for other commercial plans he has for RL in Hull, it has to be better for us to work with KR when it suits our mutual interests, we can become a strong united vote on all things SL if we keep one another as a minor priority (if such a thing exists), I also think it's a bit of an indication that for too long we've voted and made decisions based on the best interests of L**ds as opposed to what we really believe as a club.
A lot of words will be said over the coming days and weeks, not all of them will be meant as heartfully as they are said.'"
Agree with most of that but not the Leeds part, that's way wide if the mark imo.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Agree with most of that but not the Leeds part, that's way wide if the mark imo.'"
But when it comes to all things L**ds, you are hardly unbiased Paul.
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| Quote ="Standee"But when it comes to all things L**ds, you are hardly unbiased Paul.'"
My god are you really that stupid?
My wife supports Leeds, she always has. I support Hull, I always have. How does that make me unbiased?
I don't like Leeds and never have. Give me one shred of proof that KH has made a decision at FC that has helped Leeds.
Your view view of KH is distorted by what she did to you, don't accuse me of being some kind of Leeds fan cos you will just make yourself look silly.
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| Still think a couple of signings will be made for next season suppose depends on gleeson aswell
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| As others have said i reckon Agars future will be decided on what happens on the CC and final league standings. Pearson mentions us being in a trough and that it isnt good enough so if that continues till the end of the season, which it will, then Agar will be gone!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
I am still concerned that there is no RL knowledge at the club to advise on things like a new coach etc. '"
His bezzy mate Nick Barmby will more than advise him on that issue Seriously though I think AP will attract rugby and money men like Mally Walker, and others who wouldn't deal with the previous BOD...........IMO
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I don't think Agar will be sacked, I reckon AP will offer him the opportunity to do what he is best at, assisting a top-class manager. If Agar, like Kear before him, thinks that he has grown out of that role, he can then feel free to bugger off and cock someone else's team up.'"
I said this should have been done 18 mths ago. I would support this fully now in the belief that he will then fook off 12 mths later. Wire did it very effectively with Lowes. In the good tradition of SL era Hull FC it would be the cheaper option. I do though suspect Pearson is a little more ruthless than that.
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| Quote ="Standee"But when it comes to all things L**ds, you are hardly unbiased Paul.'"
And you are?
Quote ="Standee"(actually, I don't fear it, I hate L**ds with a passion, so I hope you end up with Kath as Operations Director)'"
How old are you writting L**ds? 10?
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| I dont want Agar anywhere near the club nor any of the other coaches. We need a complete clean sweep and then bring in someone like Nobby with his own coaches to start everything a fresh. Nobby would offer us stability whilst allowing the club to rebuild ala Wigan and the ground work he did for McGuire
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| First chance i've had to comment on AP taking over, i was away with work yesterday, thought i'd take a quick peek at this site before an important meeting i was attending, when i say the news it almost screwed everything up for the meeting! I couldn't think straight becuase of the excitement.
As you will tell i think this is an excellent bit of news for us and one that could finally drive us forward. There were two issues for me with the old BOD;
1. They backed Agar to the hilt, almost perversely
2. Them themselves appeared to lack any interest in the club of late (see point 1)
Now point 2 is rectified (welcome AP), point 1 will not happen any longer and we can all be assured we will see either significant improvement from Agar and the team or bye, bye Agar lets see someone else come in.
One final point (well two i guess) hopefully this silly recruitment strategy we have had for coaches over the past 5/6 years is now over (no more unproven assistant cheap options). I guess Agar will have to now bin them photo's he had, unless he is the J Edgar Hoover of sport and has something on Pearson!!!!
I'm one chuffed individual and i may now contemplate renewing my pass for next year (after this years sebatical).
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| Quote ="PAUL M"My god are you really that stupid?
My wife supports Leeds, she always has. I support Hull, I always have. How does that make me unbiased?
I don't like Leeds and never have. Give me one shred of proof that KH has made a decision at FC that has helped Leeds.
Your view view of KH is distorted by what she did to you, don't accuse me of being some kind of Leeds fan cos you will just make yourself look silly.'"
Wasn't accusing you of anything Paul, apologies if it came across that way. And my view of Kath is shared by very many people, both FC fans, sponsors and in wider RL.
On a number of occasions L**ds have signed players that we made initial enquiries about, and I know that to be the truth.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Why?
Because pearson is always the front man. If he had no involvement with allam then I'd welcome it, but as it is, this would effectively put Hull into allam's hands to do with what he wants.
Anyone who doesn't see that is plain dumb'"
I don't think Pearson is anyones puppet, and i think anyone who thinks he is is the dumb one around here!!!!
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| Quote ="Standee" I also think it's a bit of an indication that for too long we've voted and made decisions based on the best interests of L**ds as opposed to what we really believe as a club.
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Spot on
An ex coach once said to me when i asked him about the Hetheringtons and there influence and he said it was immoral and unhealthy for the game.
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Still think a couple of signings will be made for next season suppose depends on gleeson aswell'"
I have stated elsewhere mate,I would be majorly surprised to see Gleeson in a Hull shirt again.
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| I'm very excited that Adam Pearson has taken over.
Hopefully mediocrity will be a word soon forgotten/deleted from FC vocabulary.
Top of my shopping list would be world class coach, and I wouldn't want to wait til santa claus arrives in december.
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| So, so happy about this news.
Kath gone
Irrelevant, silent, actionless other shareholders gone
And now i'm guessing we are guaranteed one of the following:
1) Challenge Cup Victory
2) Grand Final Winners
3) Agar sacked
Given that 1 & 2 are extremely unlikely i'd like to take this opportunity to thank Richard for all he's done for Hull FC... Thanks for nothing Agar - you almost made me fall out of love with my beloved FC - can't wait to see the camera shots of your face when all the fans wave (& sing) bye-bye to you at the end of tomorrows game.
Good luck at your next Superleague club
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| Quote ="Standee"Wasn't accusing you of anything Paul, apologies if it came across that way. And my view of Kath is shared by very many people, both FC fans, sponsors and in wider RL.
On a number of occasions L**ds have signed players that we made initial enquiries about, and I know that to be the truth.'"
Conversely however, how many players have you gotten from Leeds? Carvell, Dowes, Tansey, the likes of Scruton, McShane and Broughton on loan. Not a terrible return for Hull
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| I was a little taken aback when I got a text at 07:00 in the morning whilst preparing to go down to breakfast in Wales and I have had time to think about it. If this is just Adam Pearson acting on his own and I think it is then this can be very good news. I know he has always enjoyed watching FC and stopped going when certain parties at the club made it difficult for him. This move does nothing to assist Mr Allams KC bid as I do not believe for one minute that he is prepared to pay anything like the going rate to a council wary of him and his actions.
I think we have to be 100% supportive and patient, things rarely change for the better quickly and I know we have had a lean time in recent years but success is still a little way away yet. I am pleased to see that the many of the top executive side of the operation are staying, James Rule has been a good performer for the club and despite what some people might think worth hanging onto. The transition has been quick and painless thus far, I do feel that Rich Agar may well be feeling exposed now and we may yet see a face from our past return in some capacity. I for one would welcome the change if it be for a few weeks or a longer period.
Good luck to Adam he will I am confident take the club that tiny step we need to take us to the level we had just 5/6 six years ago and then onwards to greater glory.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Conversely however, how many players have you gotten from Leeds? Carvell, Dowes, Tansey, the likes of Scruton, McShane and Broughton on loan. Not a terrible return for Hull'"
Yes, because Tansey was a massive boost, wasn't he.
We've done L**ds a favour a number of times by taking their dead wood on, I agree.
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| Quote ="Standee"Yes, because Tansey was a massive boost, wasn't he.
We've done L**ds a favour a number of times by taking their dead wood on, I agree.'"
If you wish. You're hardly doing your argument any favours when your being so childish.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Conversely however, how many players have you gotten from Leeds? Carvell, Dowes, Tansey, the likes of Scruton, McShane and Broughton on loan. Not a terrible return for Hull'"
With the exception of McShane non of them were players Leeds seem to value though.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Conversely however, how many players have you gotten from Leeds? Carvell, Dowes, Tansey, the likes of Scruton, McShane and Broughton on loan. Not a terrible return for Hull'"
And Raynor.
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