You let opinions on an internet message board get you down? Get a grip

it would be a boring world and message board if we agreed all the time.im just an average fan,down when we lose,up when we win.

I wish I was confident Moa will stay.

I don't think Obst is a rubbish signing, but for a quota signing for 2 years I think we could and should be getting better. It's not like he's young with years of potential ahead, either. It's not chance that he's been in the english game for 7 years without a decent club showing the slightest sniff of interest, even when quota restrictions were less stringent than they are now.

getting someone better,who like?

and he's got a funny nose

Firstly, I should establish that I think scrum half is by far the weakest of the 3 positional options Obst offers. I think he's a good bench hooker and half-decent stand-off. But in the summer, in similar positions:

Bradford got Briggs, who looks a better stand-off than Obst. They also got Diskin, who is definitely a better hooker than Obst.
Cas got Orr, who is at least as good, probably better, in all 3 positions, and we could have used the quota spot elsewhere.
I've only seen small amounts of Green, but he looks a better organiser than Obst, which is what we are in more need of than enthusiasm.

We may well have been interested in the above, but if so questions should be asked as to why we didn't get them.

Also, although I have given examples, I don't personally think the 'if you think we can do better, name them' stance means anything. It's not my job to know who's available and how good they are, so I don't have the time and resources required to find such things out. When Noble needed halves at the last minute for Crusaders did he panic buy the best of a commonly-known bad bunch in SL? No, he went and found players who many of us either didn't know, or at least didn't know were available. I know he didn't have the quota issues to deal with Hull do, but personally I'd take any single one of Witt, Sammut or Hanbury over Obst, they're all both better and younger.

And there is the issue! They had Noble, we have Agar - nuff said really!

Briggs was a strange one for me , Highly rated by some (me included) Young , English ,Decent kicking game and we never made a move for him even though we was heavily linked with him.

Yeah bloody Agar, saddling us with the likes of O'Meeley, Fitz, Moa and Westerman.

Very good post.

we tried to get sammut,but failed.witt we should have gone for 2 year ago.as for the rest ,all fair players,but id rather have obst than any of them.just my opinion of course.saw briggs for the first time playing for bradford u20s yesterday.not impressed.

Did Williams play?

yes,i dont think hes ready for first team yet.didnt really stand out.

Fair enough, that's your opinion, but out of curiosity what is there about Obst that you rate higher than the others? I definitely have not seen anything from him in his 6 years at Wakey that makes him a better player than Orr and Diskin, and Briggs may not be much better than Obst yet but has the potential to be so and more years ahead of him.

Agar has made some good signings, which makes it all the more puzzling really. I think part of the problem may be that we don't seem to be very aware of who might be available below the more famous names. Maybe our scouting/contact network in Australia simply isn't very good?

I think there's a bit of luck in some recruiting, something we did well with when we got Moa.

obst has always impressed me when ive seen him for wakefield.i think he would have been even better with a top club.

Well said.

Why is he moving again..?

Briggs is that good he's currently residing in Bradfords reserve grade, and getting slated aswell. Orr is having a re-union like honeymoon at Cas atm. He's not been consistently better or worse than Obst over the last couple of years. Blake Green looks poor so far to me, he might improve as he settles in, he may not. What could you have possibly seen to label him an organiser of any kind?
Diskin is fair enough, we should have been in for him but he was probably after too long a deal and would of meant Houghtons development possibly being affected.

Also don't forget, we weren't even looking for half back cover for this year until our original cover had been sacked.

Key point - Obst wouldn't be at Hull if Tansey had behaved. On the back of that disruption things look to have turned out better than they might have.

People won't accept that Tansey was our cover.

Is that despite agar announcing at the forum last year that his main priority was a back up half back and the fact that phelps is playing where tansey did?

I have been surprised by Green, he looks a good 6 and will better playing outside Dobson.

I said at the time I would have liked to see Briggs brought in but we have to remember we had Nicklas ready to step up this season and Agar obviously thinks the likes of Nicklas/Williams are better bets than Briggs/Moore which is fair enough.

Presumably because our coach stated that he wanted to sign a back up half back when tansey was still part of the squad