His nickname was “Donk” Jake, prop forward

Nearly as good as Peter Spring!

I'm sure there was some aussie named brown who came late 80's or early 90's who was nicknamed the tumble dryer around the time that nfl player had the nickname refrigerator

Youre right..
Peter Spring's nickname was 'Donk,' because he had an uncanny resemblance to a character from the Crocodile Dundee movie.

Thought Springs nickname was Cockie, long time ago now, maybe I’m mixed up.

Thought Springs nickname was Cockie, long time ago now, maybe I’m mixed up.

Talk this morning is his hamstring went in the captains run.

Not that it's Hull FC related. Apologies!

The man is just down on confidence not effort. I hope he doesn’t read this forum in search of any boost. As Houghton says everyone is putting the effort in and everyone cares. I see that. There’s a player in Okunbar but your comments won’t help imo.
Hoping for a spirited close defeat v Saints but expecting a spirited stuffing!

My comments won't make a difference and if he reads them and is offended then he's far too fragile to be a pro rl player. I say it as I see it. How many hit ups does he make a game? What's his average metres per game? How many times is he offering himself to take those hard drives in our own 20? One of the worst imports we've had in a while and the competition is plenty,

If Okunbor does read this forum, and I would be stunned if he did, then his best riposte would be to take the words of people like myself earlier and ram them back down our throats, only he has the capacity to do so.

The guy has played in the NRL so, as you say, there must be a player in there somewhere, but it's difficult to escape the viewpoint that, so far, we've seen scant evidence that the guy is making even a minimal contribution (one dash to the craven park try line notwithstanding).

Both Ese and Pele have shown the odd glimpse here and there that they have something to offer, but we're still waiting to see if Okunbor is going to make a worthwhile contribution and justify bringing him over here.
Obviously he's landed into a club and situation where it's not exactly rosy (to say the least!!) and maybe the changes we've seen over the past two weeks will inject some energy and enthusiaism into him, let's hope so.

I hope he proves me wrong, I really do, but based on what we have seen so far, he has been the worst performer out of a very badly under-performing bunch, which is some feat! Only he can alter that narrative, otherwise he's going to end up going down in fan folklore as one of the worst signings the club has made in recent memory, alongside the (semi) legendary Dave 'tumble-dryer' Brown





Over to you, Jaydon, prove us all wrong here and we will be rooting for you, honest!

In the meantime, let's hope for only a 'mere' 30 point drubbing tonight, then we're on our way once more!

He undoubtedly is needed but isn't performing anywhere near the required standard, particularly given he is an overseas player who will be on a chunk more than a comparable UK player. He wanders about looking disinterested. Looks like he is clueless in the position and/or just lazy to me, nothing to do with confidence. I'd expect a lack of confidence to show itself in errors, not what we see in him. He was massively outperformed by staveley until his injury and staveley isn't a 2nd rower and has played barely a handful of first grade games.

I hope he does come good but I've seen nothing to suggest he will

I think he could be a good player IF he actually put the effort in. He tends to make good metres per carry, but he only takes in 3 or 4 carrys a game. It's just not good enough. Especially when you've got kids like Lewis Martin putting his hand up to take the ball in time and time again.
He does a lot of tackling (usually around 40+ when on for the full 80) so he can do stuff when need be. Difference is in defence people are running at him so he has no choice but to make a tackle. When we have the ball he doesn't go looking for it. He seems to hide out the way.
Said it before but we need to try and utilise his height. Put some kicks up to him when attacking the line and he will outjump just about any other player on the pitch.
If he had the work ethic of Ese'ese I think he would do a job. At the moment he's just a complete passenger out there on the pitch.

I think we have to stop picking out individuals like this at the moment. Yes, we need him to do better but we need the team as a whole to do better. We also don't know what has been going on behind the scenes and what we may see going forward. Time to wipe the slate clean with everyone I think and move forward.

Young side looks like FC fancy Davy Litten as a centre also played in reserves at centre the other week too. Moy FB. No Ock. Young bench

Given all the circumstances. Form, confidence, players missing, opposition, venue. If we lose by less than 50 points, that will be a step in the right direction.

All the best to us all.

Big gulf in class and experience.

A dauting task but I'll be happy to see plenty of effort and commitment in defence.

Sadly every time I’ve seen Litten play centre he has struggled. Would’ve preferred Macintosh there. Hopefully he makes me eat those words tonight.

In terms of Okunbor, I do sometimes wonder if his lack of contribution is affected by the lack of a proper half. Biggest concern is how much he’s caught on the deck when defending

Gonna be a long night I think

Don't see how this team keeps it within 50 tonight unfortunately. Just a too young and inexperienced team. As others have said, show some effort and a good attitude and thats all we can ask tonight.

Christ, what a hit by Hurrell on Martin.

Moy crabbing along the line on our own 10 on the 3rd tackle shouldn't be happening. Where's the big lads to be taking that carry in.

Seen enough of Pele to say he is an absolute pudding. Defensively and offensively.

Great confidence booster for Moy chopping Batchelor down like that. Good lad.