Pele and Brown have the exact same details of charge yet one gets grade C and 1 watch ban, other gets grade B and just a fine.
There's been far later hits this year than Pele's that have only been given as a penalty.
4 players charged this week and 2 are Hull's. 100% our discipline has been poor but how is it so much worse than what other players are doing that we have multiple players charged every single week?

Unless injured there is absolutely no chance of Brown at 9.

Quite impressive for a team.with terrible discipline to sign more forwards with terrible discipline.

The organisation from the play the ball is a massive problem thats been going on a few years now, sick of seeing us making it up as we go along and passing to props on the 5th. Whos meant to be in charge of organising who recieves the ball? As its absolute chaos, surely Houghtons got some major accountability for this.

The more i read the more our club jus seems more and more like an amateur holiday camp.

Laid back tony yeah lads just make it up.as you go. As thats actually what im seeing.

Must be our best week yet, only one match ban picked up.

Pele clearly a marked man now, a bit like Watts.

Id go exactly as you said, lane has been better, only thing that swayed me was theyve been playing Balmforth at loose forward in the ressies.

But id have him as interchange hooker all day long.
Will do the same as you wait to see the team and if its the same e head scratching setup i wont bother

I said pre season, that our only hope was the 4 overseas players signed would go better than expected.

Fair to say its quite the opposite.

Ese'ese and Brown looked decent signings with the caveat that it was assumed that Brown would switch to hooker when Trueman was back. We shall see.

Pele and Okunbor were risks and five games in neither look to have not come off. I'd be surprised if either are still here next season.

Still early days and that's all I'm clinging to. Ese'ese looks pretty decent to me and I think there's a player in Brown if we can get him at hooker instead of flogging Houghton for 80 minutes every game (wishful thinking I know!). Pele's a difficult one because there's size and power there that could be used to good effect but there's work to be done there to channel it right and he does appear to be a marked man (is two games played and two suspensions a new record?). Really not sure what to make of Okunbor at the moment as it looks like he is struggling to settle into the team at the moment.

Okunbor seems a really quiet individual, which when he is over here on his own as he's single, it must be hard to get used to being a different country. I don't know if it is worth putting him back on the wing - his career long position, to get him some confidence?

What?
Play a winger on the wing how can you suggest that?

Be interesting to see how many make the trip.

Imagine this game a few seasons ago, Saturday afternoon in the cup, they'd be 2K+, be lucky if there's even half that. Really sad.

What question did Okunbor play growing up, until his first grade NRL debut.

Blokes played 67 appearances as a winger and 40 as a second rower. Just cherry pick stats to suit your narrative.

He’s moved over and not adapted immediately as is the case with many overseas signings. eg. Carlos, Field, Lolohea, Mago.

Normally I'd be gutted, Im working Saturday till 2.15, but it's more of a blessing atm

Regards Okunbor think there is a decent player in there but for whatever reason where not seeing it. Certainly got the size.

I said on another thread , Id be surprised if Okunbor sees the end of this season .

Is there though? Or do you just want there to be? The bulldogs fans weren't exactly gutted he left, and nicknamed him knockonbur

Thankfully we don't have to worry about him knocking on.... mainly because he never wants the ball.

Can't afford to pay another one off and he won't get a better offer in the NRL I would guess.

Anyone remember Steve Craven
The fanzine created a new verb from his name
To ‘Craven’ the ball was to knock on
lol
Made me laugh for sure

Mcintosh isn't a winger. So get Martin back in and give us some speed on both wings.

I don't want to see Mcintosh on the wing again. Give him a run at centre, because Carlos is finished and Scott isn't taking his chance.

There's really not much else we can do at the moment in terms of change, with the likes of Walker, Truman, Fash and Ashworth out.

We'll just have to hope they respond to the humiliation of last week.

Tindall was hopeless in causing the first try and then letting the winger go around him by being too far inside of the winger !
Basic wing defence 101 and he totally fooked up there
Wow

I just watched the Mini of the game on Sky - 20 mins
The players are not playing for the Coach or it seems anyone
Okinbur defence in that opening 20 was a utter total fooking disgrace and if he doesn’t want to be here then he can just
fook off to fookery

Pele is simply unfit and no one seems to care - bit like Mahe second time around eating 2 Macdonalds a day after training

It’s a complete Shoite show and I’d say Uncle Tony has lost the dressing room and the new signings have almost rebelled and are anti FC currently

This could be really messy at Giants and I don’t want to think about Good Friday

Also Pele has previous ie he hasn’t cleaned up his act so punishment worse

I think all the forces are against him:playing in a foreign country, with a poor team with fans criticising him, shy individual etc etc etc. I feel too there is a decent player in there just maybe needs an arm around him? Think Pele will come good too and Brown when he plays hooker and Balmforth when he plays LF!
I’m going to Huddersfield - happily couldn’t go v Leigh. I just go to view a match nowadays not to experience a victory