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| Quote ="His Bobness"That's easy. Rovers charge a set fee of £250k. They have nothing further to do with it. All other income belongs to the organisers.
OK that's less than a years wages that you paid to Reynolds but it's still good business.'"
How much do Rovers make per year on average on these events then, £500k?
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"How much do Rovers make per year on average on these events then, £500k?'"
I doubt its that high. The three cancelled during Covid lost us £250k, So i doubt this years concerts would net £250k each.
https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/ ... ronavirus/
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I doubt its that high. The three cancelled during Covid lost us £250k, So i doubt this years concerts would net £250k each.
https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/ ... ronavirus/
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"How much do Rovers make per year on average on these events then, £500k?'"
Rovers had 2 big concerts cancelled because of COVID and the club reported that had cost them £500,000.
Obviously it depends on how many concerts per year and how big a draw the artists are.
The Who and Rod Stewart may be of a certain generation but they still command a huge following, If I wanted to sit in my Rovers seat to watch them it would cost £160. All of that goes to the organisers plus all associated extras like food and drink.
Rovers just get their guaranteed £250,000 per concert no more no less.
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| the guarantee must have gone up a lot then as the three concerts cancelled because of covid cost £250,000 in total not £250,000 each
“The deals we have with those three concerts will net us at least £250,000 for those three events so you can image the size of that hole.”
*sorry East you have already pointed that out.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Rovers had 2 big concerts cancelled because of COVID and the club reported that had cost them £500,000.
Obviously it depends on how many concerts per year and how big a draw the artists are.
The Who and Rod Stewart may be of a certain generation but they still command a huge following, If I wanted to sit in my Rovers seat to watch them it would cost £160. All of that goes to the organisers plus all associated extras like food and drink.
Rovers just get their guaranteed £250,000 per concert no more no less.'"
The article doesn’t say anything about who pays for the police, stewarding, insurance cover ..
I would have thought kr would pay that as ground owners.
Simon Moran, the Warrington owner is a music promoter and their ground capacity is bigger than kr ground.
Makes you wonder with his contacts why he has not held concerts if there’s that much profit to be made.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"That's easy. Rovers charge a set fee of £250k. They have nothing further to do with it. All other income belongs to the organisers.
OK that's less than a years wages that you paid to Reynolds but it's still good business.'"
So how come Hull Kingston Rovers (Events) Ltd has only made £136k in 5 years of trading?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So how come Hull Kingston Rovers (Events) Ltd has only made £136k in 5 years of trading?'"
The years of income, doesn't match the dates we've held concerts? This subsidiary of Rovers is clearly used for something different to the organisation of concerts.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I think you maybe right if I’m being honest. I don’t doubt he has made mistakes and some big ones however he has always been prepared to put his money in.
I think he is frustrated, annoyed and disappointed much like us all. I think he knows he’s made the mistakes too and wasted time and money with those mistakes. Above all I think he’s needed help and support at the top as it’s an awful lot to take on and handle on your own.
In regards the comment about his last coaching appointment I would imagine it’s more to do with looking at taking a back seat in these matters rather than being the one solely responsible as I imagine the pressure is immense on his shoulders.
I think it would help if he communicated a little more with the fan base rather than the emotional outbursts we have seen.
The fact is there are very few people/investors that would want to take on a SL club due to the way the sport is run and it takes money rather than makes money.
What is a concern is if we are genuinely spending up to 2.1M on the squad then that really is/has been wasted on the players over the past 3-4yrs. I hope some of the players actually read his statement and their consciences give them a kick up the ar5e.
Just think AP needs to be honest and open with the clubs fan base without any sales pitch thrown in.'"
Spot on
Pearson has been alot better than likes of hetherington/rule/plumber
People wanting Pearson gone has careful what you wish for written all over it
Cause we'd struggle to get better than him
The players are the sole problem no one else
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| The fish rots from the head …..simple as that
He’s been there too long for it not to be his fault
He’s just a really nice guy and too soft as a
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Softness breeds laziness and after that a cancer breaks out from the laziness
AP let this happen slowly over 10 years and presently only Tony Smith can help Adam
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"The fish rots from the head …..simple as that
He’s been there too long for it not to be his fault
He’s just a really nice guy and too soft as a
Man Manager
Softness breeds laziness and after that a cancer breaks out from the laziness
AP let this happen slowly over 10 years and presently only Tony Smith can help Adam'"
Are you deserting AP in his hour of need?
Thought you and him were tight mate?
You were always wanging him an e-mail back in the day..........
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| Don’t get the hate for Pearson personally, the facts are:
1. We wouldn’t have a club without him.
2. Up until last year we have one of the most expensive squads in the league
3. He’s funding the club with no support and he clearly needs it.
4. He’s signs off on recruitment, he doesn’t do the scouting.
5. He’s not thrown his toys out the pram and threatened to walk away
6. He’s always been willing to take losses paying deadwood off.
7. Pre Covid we had never ran at a loss
People hate on him when realistically he has the most expensive season ticket at the club.
Right now times are tough, but In his tenure he’s provided us some of the best times. He can’t be blamed for underperforming squads. That’s down to the coach and players.
It’s clear we need another investor but that should be to supplement him, not replace him. He clearly loves the club and treats us well. And most importantly better the devil you know.
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Don’t get the hate for Pearson personally, the facts are:
1. We wouldn’t have a club without him.
2. Up until last year we have one of the most expensive squads in the league
3. He’s funding the club with no support and he clearly needs it.
4. He’s signs off on recruitment, he doesn’t do the scouting.
5. He’s not thrown his toys out the pram and threatened to walk away
6. He’s always been willing to take losses paying deadwood off.
7. Pre Covid we had never ran at a loss
People hate on him when realistically he has the most expensive season ticket at the club.
Right now times are tough, but In his tenure he’s provided us some of the best times. He can’t be blamed for underperforming squads. That’s down to the coach and players.
It’s clear we need another investor but that should be to supplement him, not replace him. He clearly loves the club and treats us well. And most importantly better the devil you know.'" Great post
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Don’t get the hate for Pearson personally, the facts are:
1. We wouldn’t have a club without him.
2. Up until last year we have one of the most expensive squads in the league
3. He’s funding the club with no support and he clearly needs it.
4. He’s signs off on recruitment, he doesn’t do the scouting.
5. He’s not thrown his toys out the pram and threatened to walk away
6. He’s always been willing to take losses paying deadwood off.
7. Pre Covid we had never ran at a loss
People hate on him when realistically he has the most expensive season ticket at the club.
Right now times are tough, but In his tenure he’s provided us some of the best times. He can’t be blamed for underperforming squads. That’s down to the coach and players.
It’s clear we need another investor but that should be to supplement him, not replace him. He clearly loves the club and treats us well. And most importantly better the devil you know.'"
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Don’t get the hate for Pearson personally, the facts are:
1. We wouldn’t have a club without him.
2. Up until last year we have one of the most expensive squads in the league
3. He’s funding the club with no support and he clearly needs it.
4. He’s signs off on recruitment, he doesn’t do the scouting.
5. He’s not thrown his toys out the pram and threatened to walk away
6. He’s always been willing to take losses paying deadwood off.
7. Pre Covid we had never ran at a loss
People hate on him when realistically he has the most expensive season ticket at the club.
Right now times are tough, but In his tenure he’s provided us some of the best times. He can’t be blamed for underperforming squads. That’s down to the coach and players.
It’s clear we need another investor but that should be to supplement him, not replace him. He clearly loves the club and treats us well. And most importantly better the devil you know.'"
In answer to a few of these points a lot of them are just opinion and not actually fact. Heres how i see it
1. To say we wouldnt have a club without him is a guess - if he hadnt of took over then someone else would - just like if he left someone else would buy us - we wouldnt just dissapear ffs
2. Yes he spends all the money on the squad and bugger all on staff that would help out with the running of the club - thats not good and is shown in the shambolic way the clubs run in some areas
3. Yeah he has no support but that seems to be his choice - Hudgehill relaised that wasnt sustainable and has allowed other other people in, when will Pearson remove his head from the sand and do the same?
4. He recruits continually poor managers/coachs
5. Hes thrown his toys out of the pram a few times over the years
6. Not this time or players would be gonners allowing fresh blood to come in
7. The only true one
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"In answer to a few of these points a lot of them are just opinion and not actually fact. Heres how i see it
1. To say we wouldnt have a club without him is a guess - if he hadnt of took over then someone else would - just like if he left someone else would buy us - we wouldnt just dissapear ffs
2. Yes he spends all the money on the squad and bugger all on staff that would help out with the running of the club - thats not good and is shown in the shambolic way the clubs run in some areas
3. Yeah he has no support but that seems to be his choice - Hudgehill relaised that wasnt sustainable and has allowed other other people in, when will Pearson remove his head from the sand and do the same?
4. He recruits continually poor managers/coachs
5. Hes thrown his toys out of the pram a few times over the years
6. Not this time or players would be gonners allowing fresh blood to come in
7. The only true one'"
Just opinion and not actually fact!!!
1. If he left, no one leaves without selling but wtf would buy FC. Said before people are queuing up to invest never mind buying NOT.
2. He’s invested everything in the squad and training facilities and had to cut costs in admin.
3. Hudgell’s an ambulance chaser who repeatedly lost £500,000
a season, spat his dummy out, threatened to walk away until somebody felt forced to step up. It’s only rumours that AP has turned down investment opportunities. I’ve not heard anything viable. He’s openly asked for outside investment, see 1.
4. We had Gentle who I might add seemed to be the real deal. Oh my, Radford did a real number on him talking AP into getting shot and giving the job to him. McRae was another who did a number on AP. The one thing I do regret was AP kept Radford on 2 years too long. Radford oversaw our poor recruitment for his last 2 seasons and there lies the rub Taylor Shaull Griffin.
5. Bollucks, if he’d thrown the toys out the pram, you wouldn’t have something to whine about.
6. Covid left us nigh on broke, how he keeps this club going God only knows. Where does the cash come from to pay anyone off. He got shot of Reynolds, must have cost a packet.
7. Your only true quote.
You’ve always been a whinger, who rarely attended, now you’ve got the perfect excuse, you no longer live in Hull. Do us all a favour and give up. You and that barometer wielding idiot Tarquin, lives the other side of the world and pontificates on all things FC. I am and have been and always will be a pass holder, I have the right to be called a fan (fanatic) and therefore have the right to criticise my club, anyone else is a casual supporter and therefore does not have that right.
Anyone arguing that AP should sell up is an idiot. I’ve posted elsewhere that the blame should be directed from top to bottom but this squad should shoulder the blame for what’s happening now, end of.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Just opinion and not actually fact!!!
1. If he left, no one leaves without selling but wtf would buy FC. Said before people are queuing up to invest never mind buying NOT.
2. He’s invested everything in the squad and training facilities and had to cut costs in admin.
3. Hudgell’s an ambulance chaser who repeatedly lost £500,000
a season, spat his dummy out, threatened to walk away until somebody felt forced to step up. It’s only rumours that AP has turned down investment opportunities. I’ve not heard anything viable. He’s openly asked for outside investment, see 1.
4. We had Gentle who I might add seemed to be the real deal. Oh my, Radford did a real number on him talking AP into getting shot and giving the job to him. McRae was another who did a number on AP. The one thing I do regret was AP kept Radford on 2 years too long. Radford oversaw our poor recruitment for his last 2 seasons and there lies the rub Taylor Shaull Griffin.
5. Bollucks, if he’d thrown the toys out the pram, you wouldn’t have something to whine about.
6. Covid left us nigh on broke, how he keeps this club going God only knows. Where does the cash come from to pay anyone off. He got shot of Reynolds, must have cost a packet.
7. Your only true quote.
You’ve always been a whinger, who rarely attended, now you’ve got the perfect excuse, you no longer live in Hull. Do us all a favour and give up. You and that barometer wielding idiot Tarquin, lives the other side of the world and pontificates on all things FC. I am and have been and always will be a pass holder, I have the right to be called a fan (fanatic) and therefore have the right to criticise my club, anyone else is a casual supporter and therefore does not have that right.
Anyone arguing that AP should sell up is an idiot. I’ve posted elsewhere that the blame should be directed from top to bottom but this squad should shoulder the blame for what’s happening now, end of.'"
He has been offered investment from a few people - he went to Atropa Pharmacy's MD for 200k - and he was going to give them it, but he wanted a share, or a place on the board in return. AP turned it down
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| Interesting when you consider Atropa is a main sponsor and seem to be well thought of by the club, yet when help is offered they are happy to turn it away. AP either has something in the pipeline or has too much pride to have more members on the board.
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That is complete rubbish wherever you’ve got that from and has never happened.
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Ask the OP who’s since PM’d me if I’m talking rubbish. I read lots on forums that I just shake my head at but just cannot be bothered with people who think they know stuff coming back at me and calling tit for tat. Where do some of the rumours come from really!?
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He has been offered investment from a few people - he went to Atropa Pharmacy's MD for 200k - and he was going to give them it, but he wanted a share, or a place on the board in return. AP turned it down'"
Until you can give viable evidence of what you claim, it’s hearsay, therefore rumour. I have not heard anything viable to AP turning down investment opportunities. He’s openly requested others to invest in FC, no one has come forward unless you can PROVE otherwise.
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| I don’t believe the Atroopa Pharmacy claim one bit, if Pearson did reject them I’m sure they’d have taken their bat and ball home.
Even for a SL club a 200k investment isn’t exactly huge money. It would’ve been swallowed up in the first season. Not that I’d complain at a 200k investment.
Right now Pearson needs to start thinking about easy wins. Needs to start giving us fans something positive.
There’s not much to enjoy at the minute but if they announced extensions to Balmforth, Stavely, Armstrong & Litten I’d be fairly happy that the club is tying down our best youth and has a long term plan in place.
Obviously, can’t really be handing out new contract to first teamers as they need to step up and earn it. And perception would be we’re rewarding mediocrity. Think right now, only ones I’d offer contracts too would be Savelio, Cator & Fash but moving forward the last two should be squad players who are around our 21 vying for spots when injuries/form is poor.
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