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| Quote ="UllFC"I dont think they out and out lie but they count passholders who don't turn up and there seems to have been more missing games in our block as its just not 'must see' stuff at the moment, there are then these mysterious tickets the SMC have to buy from us which I assume we class as a sale. Then there are all the kids parading flags, stewards etc which accounts for a few more who in the ground but not actually in the seats
More also sit in the West stand than when it first opened which maybe alters perceptions of how busy it is compared to years ago when it was all about the East stand.'"
But do they actually count all those things or is that just an assumption? (Genuine question btw, not being snide)
I assumed, perhaps naively, that it would simply have been a case of checking whatever software runs the turnstiles to see hoe many tickets had been scanned in that day. Occam's Razor and all that.
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| why inflate crowd figures if it affects future costs to smc/tax
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I’m all for sending out a strong message to protect refs. I feel a bit sorry for Sims but I’ve no problem with the ban in of itself. 3 games is maybe a bit harsh but given he’s retiring after 1, I guess it doesn’t matter. However, given that Logan Astley wasn’t charged for doing the same thing less than half a second earlier, the message is instead one rule for some clubs and another for the rest.
They don’t make it easy to enjoy, do they?'"
I agree to some extent that a strong message needs to be sent out but on the flip side the RFL need to seriously look at the falling standard of the officiating of the game along with disciplinary. I also think the officials under the tenure of Ganson have become somewhat removed from the game/players etc.
The level of disparity in decisions made (or not made) by on field officials but also the VR during a game is a concern added to the retrospective action taken post game that again seems to differ. Then we have the lottery of the disciplinary which just leaves more questions than answers.
I think in some ways the process and people involved in that have gone power crazy and the punishments are just way too aggressive and harsh for a large number of incidents.
The public pay good hard earned money to see the top players but this season we seem to have seen far too many suspensions that really in all honesty have not been warranted and its making the game less attractive. A number of the bans Hull FC have received this season I would not argue with but there have also been a good number that shall I say are very questionable in terms of a ban in the first place or the length/severity for the supposed crime.
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| No Fash for us
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| Quote ="scarrie"But do they actually count all those things or is that just an assumption? (Genuine question btw, not being snide)
I assumed, perhaps naively, that it would simply have been a case of checking whatever software runs the turnstiles to see hoe many tickets had been scanned in that day. Occam's Razor and all that.'"
Both numbers will get logged, the taxman wants to know what £'s the club has made and aren't interested if you've turned up or not, the stadium of course need to know how many have clicked through the turnstiles for health and safety. It is common practice for clubs to use tickets sold as its a slightly higher number and looks better.
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| Quote ="mwindass"No Fash for us'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"icon_evil.gif Marvellous
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Probably our player of the season as well. Just gets worse. Massive boost for Rovers.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Probably our player of the season as well. Just gets worse. Massive boost for Rovers.'"
Indeed. Timely as well.
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| Quote ="mwindass"No Fash for us
No Litten for Rovers'"
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| "Danny McGuire admits Hull KR will name a 16 man squad to take on Hull FC"
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| They haven’t got one fit Academy player who can go on the bench?
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"They haven’t got one fit Academy player who can go on the bench?'"
Yes, but it wouldn't fit the narrative.
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| It'll be McGuire instilling a seige mentallity.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Yes, but it wouldn't fit the narrative.'"
Good point. That makes sense now.
Maybe also don’t want to have to pay another player on the salary cap. Burger sales may be down this month.
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| Absolutely laughable really that they're claiming they can't name 17 players.
Academy season is finished for them and they've cancelled the reserves game for them this week so how can they not find 1 fit player? Not like they're even playing Melbourne, they're playing another massively understrength team who will also have academy players out there.
All just so that if they lose they have ready made excuses for their fans, and if they win they can big it up as one of Rovers greatest ever wins.
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| They must have 50 players, first team, reserves and academy, you aren't telling they have 34 injured players and they couldn't name a few in the squad and put one of the bench.
Top dogs as Bob says.
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| They could even name a player with a knock just to sit on the bench for 80 minutes. That would be more respectable and less embarrassing than claiming they can't name 17 players.
Even just an academy player to make a 5 minute cameo at the end.
It's a complete embarrassment in my opinion.
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| Line up same as the Toulouse game.
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| They can add to squad all a lot of rubbish they've had four players on loan, McINTOSH will come in if fit
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Yes, but it wouldn't fit the narrative.'"
Rovers have come out and explained the situation. We've 29 players unavailable across the club. You mention academy players able to step up..... That's what they've been doing the past 6 weeks. Look at the squad. Who do you think Fishwick, Barley, Dawson are, They're 17 year old academy players.
The academy side that played yourselves on Saturday and drew was pretty much made up of first year academy players aged 16. Of those that are fit, If they were ready to face men then the club would throw them in.
Registrations are closed otherwise they'd bring players in. Even Mcguire stated if they could both him and Delaney would don a shirt.
What doesn't fit the narrative for you all on here is that Hull KR actually have an injury crisis and only have 16 players.
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers have come out and explained the situation. We've 29 players unavailable across the club. You mention academy players able to step up..... That's what they've been doing the past 6 weeks. Look at the squad. Who do you think Fishwick, Barley, Dawson are, They're 17 year old academy players.
The academy side that played yourselves on Saturday and drew was pretty much made up of first year academy players aged 16. Of those that are fit, If they were ready to face men then the club would throw them in.
Registrations are closed otherwise they'd bring players in. Even Mcguire stated if they could both him and Delaney would don a shirt.
What doesn't fit the narrative for you all on here is that Hull KR actually have an injury crisis and only have 16 players.'"
Just because he says it doesn't mean it's true, I think hevis dong it to prove a point to the RFL, with regard suspensions and double weekends. Also alot of academy players got a huge bonus they make their debut (hookem got 15k for Hull for debutong) so it may be a cost thing.
Also read they have 4/5 players out of loan.
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers have come out and explained the situation. We've 29 players unavailable across the club. You mention academy players able to step up..... That's what they've been doing the past 6 weeks. Look at the squad. Who do you think Fishwick, Barley, Dawson are, They're 17 year old academy players.
The academy side that played yourselves on Saturday and drew was pretty much made up of first year academy players aged 16. Of those that are fit, If they were ready to face men then the club would throw them in.
Registrations are closed otherwise they'd bring players in. Even Mcguire stated if they could both him and Delaney would don a shirt.
What doesn't fit the narrative for you all on here is that Hull KR actually have an injury crisis and only have 16 players.'"
Name an academy player, put them on the bench and just don't play them then. At least you would be lining up with 17 players.
It's laughable that a full time professional club is claiming they can't find 17 players in the entirety of their club.
And simply saying "we have 29 players unavailable" doesn't explain the situation at all.
How many are first team? How many reserves? How many are academy? How many players are actually fit to play (whether they're 16 or not)? Why have you not recalled loan players when you have the world's worst injury crisis all year?
Absolute cop out by the club.
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers have come out and explained the situation. We've 29 players unavailable across the club. You mention academy players able to step up..... That's what they've been doing the past 6 weeks. Look at the squad. Who do you think Fishwick, Barley, Dawson are, They're 17 year old academy players.
The academy side that played yourselves on Saturday and drew was pretty much made up of first year academy players aged 16. Of those that are fit, If they were ready to face men then the club would throw them in.
Registrations are closed otherwise they'd bring players in. Even Mcguire stated if they could both him and Delaney would don a shirt.
What doesn't fit the narrative for you all on here is that Hull KR actually have an injury crisis and only have 16 players.'"
Three?? You're only picking THREE academy kids whilst in our injury crisis we've seleced SEVEN to make up the numbers? This is clearly about forcing a narrative and nothing at all to do with the protection of younger players.
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| Hull KR reporter claiming it could be financial reasons, can't be true they have loafs of money and a squad no where near the cap?
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| Dobbins fans will believe anything their club says. The whole thing sums up how that club operates. How many debuts have they handed out this season compared to us?
I can hear the worlds smallest violin playing when I hear them moaning.
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