you "predicted"?

I wouldn't trust you to tell me the time, even if I leant you my watch.

Some negative posts on here, we haven't been great but win and we could be fourth, there is no way we will be middle 8's, still in a decent position but we need to keep our unbeaten home record going and start beating the sides above us at home.

I don't think people are being negative, more just saying what they think based on performances so far, teams above and below us have games in hand, BUT we have players back tomorrow.

Shaul
Faraimo
Connor
Tuimavave
Talanoa
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Paea
Manu
Griffin
Hadley

Bowden
Green
Mini
Lane

Agreed, making the top 4 will be tough but all this talk of "middle 8's at best" is silly, there's no way we'll be bottom 4. I expect us to continue beating the teams below us so its our home games against the teams above us which will make or break our season.

Not saying Griffin wouldn't go well in the second row, but why upset the apple cart by moving him from a position he is ripping it up in at the moment?

If you think we will be bottom 4 then that isnt negativity. Its stupidity.

I don't recall anyone saying bottom 4? We don't CURRENTLY look like a top 4 side, time will tell, tomorrow we need to play the full 80 and not give silly penalties away.

THIS!!!!

But didn't you say elsewhere that nobody had mentioned "bottom 4". Surely the two are linked. Stop coming out with statements that you later deny.

I think he meant outside the top 4 . 5678

You said middle 8s at best.

Most of Griffins good work he can do from the 2nd row. Leaving 2 creative centres in Carlos and Connor.

thanks, that is exactly what I meant.

As I said. Stupidity.

so you think we look CURRENTLY like a top 4 side?

on paper, yes, but the game isn't played on paper

That comment was about you mixing up middle 8 and not making the 4. It was a bit below the belt but I am only joking.

Right now, no. But we arent miles away and a couple of big wins changes everything. Leeds and Warrington are not better than us from what I have seen. We do need to win tomorrow though otherwise its an uphill battle. Having the back rows back will make a big difference.

But you're changing the argument. You specifically said Middle Eights which everyone recognises as bottom 4 of Superleague and top 4 of championship.

In fairness I think he meant Super 8s first off but got mixed up and put Middle 8s.

Surely nobody thinks we are a bottom 4 side no matter how scratchy we've been?!

I don't, the middle eight are the eight teams below the top four, perhaps I worded it incorrectly.

And it wasn't an argument.

Exactly, this ^

You noticed the spamming of several threads too!!

He needs to worry a bit more about his teams trip to Bower Field this weekend after the same team handed them their @rses in the cup a couple of years ago.

Really like this side, tough on Masi though, but already 2 props on the bench it makes sense.

Personally I'd have Abdul over Lane, not sure why he isn't in the 19 again, I'm not sure he will be here next year.

Also as much I like Litten and cane see the potential, it showed last week he isn't quite ready, Houghton coming back on, won us the game last Thursday, he really controls the team in defence and attack.