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| Quote ="Faithful One"Weren't relegated quota players exempt this year? Or am I getting confused with the Bradford situation?
Who are our signed up non-fed players next year?
1. Kelly
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So is that the end for Mini and Michaels?'"
Mini is already signed up as is Talanoa. So Michaels must be going home or elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Mini is already signed up as is Talanoa. So Michaels must be going home or elsewhere.'"
Forgot about Talanoa! Wasn't sure if Mini was confirmed or still a rumour. Also I just realised I was looking at the 2013 rules where you were allowed 5 non-fed players instead of the current 7. Michaels has been a bit cold for me this year. Not been given an extended run, but when he's played he just seems to have lost a bit of the attributes he carried last year.
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| HDM stated not so long back that the club had confirmed negotiations with Michaels for next year, so what is happening, is it like last season were it appaeared he was offered a deal but then some were saying the club were letting him go. For the sake of the player one would hope that the club let him know one way or the other sooner rather than later otherwise he'll be in limbo and out of a job with no-one able to take him in their squad which would be a bloody shame.
And in all honesty there are plenty of times when the backline have being average bordering on pants so I think it's unfair singling out SM in that respect. He's been no worse than others over the whole season and doing his usual of filling in in any position required.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"HDM stated not so long back that the club had confirmed negotiations with Michaels for next year, so what is happening, is it like last season were it appaeared he was offered a deal but then some were saying the club were letting him go. For the sake of the player one would hope that the club let him know one way or the other sooner rather than later otherwise he'll be in limbo and out of a job with no-one able to take him in their squad which would be a bloody shame.
And in all honesty there are plenty of times when the backline have being average bordering on pants so I think it's unfair singling out SM in that respect. He's been no worse than others over the whole season and doing his usual of filling in in any position required.'"
He wants to go home as far as I know. Of the current backline Shaul is contracted. Fonua is going home, to be replaced like for like with Faraimo. Carlos has been very good for us this year and is contracted up to 2018. Griffin has improved significantly and, again, is contracted. Only Talanoa was OOC this year and few would argue that Michaels is better. Michaels is out of contract, and many have argued against wasting a quota spot on a back up winger. So all in all we could guess that he's leaving with our best wishes rather than imply we're leading him on to the point of him being unable to secure future employment.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"HDM stated not so long back that the club had confirmed negotiations with Michaels for next year, so what is happening, is it like last season were it appaeared he was offered a deal but then some were saying the club were letting him go. For the sake of the player one would hope that the club let him know one way or the other sooner rather than later otherwise he'll be in limbo and out of a job with no-one able to take him in their squad which would be a bloody shame.
And in all honesty there are plenty of times when the backline have being average bordering on pants so I think it's unfair singling out SM in that respect. He's been no worse than others over the whole season and doing his usual of filling in in any position required.'"
Michaels has to go as we have no non fed places left, he is steady but it's the right decision IMO.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He wants to go home as far as I know. Of the current backline Shaul is contracted. Fonua is going home, to be replaced like for like with Faraimo. Carlos has been very good for us this year and is contracted up to 2018. Griffin has improved significantly and, again, is contracted. Only Talanoa was OOC this year and few would argue that Michaels is better. Michaels is out of contract, and many have argued against wasting a quota spot on a back up winger. So all in all we could guess that he's leaving with our best wishes rather than imply we're leading him on to the point of him being unable to secure future employment.'"
Who has made any 'implying' that the club have lead him on, you should learn to read/understand what has being written before making unfounded accusations of a poster!
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Who has made any 'implying' that the club have lead him on, you should learn to read/understand what has being written before making unfounded accusations of a poster!
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You said we were in negotiations and went on to articulate a scenario where he's jobless and unable to get a contract elsewhere. I hope too that this doesn't happen.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Who has made any 'implying' that the club have lead him on, you should learn to read/understand what has being written before making unfounded accusations of a poster!
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It's the old "make up a story" and then "condemn the club" trick again.
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| Quote ="ccs"You're the one "implying" that the club is leading Michaels on.
It's the old "make up a story" and then "condemn the club" trick again.'"
It goes round and round in a perpetual cycle.
Make up a hypothetical scenario and bash the club/imply the club are at fault somewhere, then when people rightly pull him up on it and make counterpoints, switch to defensive mode and make claims of being attacked/posters making "unfounded accusations".
Mrs B came back with what was a fair post with lot's of good points - he didn't address them and instead made claims that unfounded accusations had been made against him, despite it clearly being implied in his original post as Mrs B points out.
It just antagonises other posters. Make your point and give your opinion, but don't cry like a baby when you get challenged on it.
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| Quote ="DGM"It goes round and round in a perpetual cycle.
Make up a hypothetical scenario and bash the club/imply the club are at fault somewhere, then when people rightly pull him up on it and make counterpoints, switch to defensive mode and make claims of being attacked/posters making "unfounded accusations".
Mrs B came back with what was a fair post with lot's of good points - he didn't address them and instead made claims that unfounded accusations had been made against him, despite it clearly being implied in his original post as Mrs B points out.
It just antagonises other posters. Make your point and give your opinion, but don't cry like a baby when you get challenged on it.'"
He's just an attention seeker, best ignored.
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| Quote ="DGM"It goes round and round in a perpetual cycle.
Make up a hypothetical scenario and bash the club/imply the club are at fault somewhere, then when people rightly pull him up on it and make counterpoints, switch to defensive mode and make claims of being attacked/posters making "unfounded accusations".
Mrs B came back with what was a fair post with lot's of good points - he didn't address them and instead made claims that unfounded accusations had been made against him, despite it clearly being implied in his original post as Mrs B points out.
It just antagonises other posters. Make your point and give your opinion, but don't cry like a baby when you get challenged on it.'"
Bang on.
Shame some of our mods have difficulty working it out for themselves.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You said we were in negotiations and went on to articulate a scenario where he's jobless and unable to get a contract elsewhere. I hope too that this doesn't happen.'"
Again read what was written. THE Hull Daily Mail report a couple of months ago SAID the club were in negotiations, this is in the article from their paper. I've simply said I hope the club don't leave it too long so that he knows what's happening as there was lots of speculation last year with no word from the club even though Michaels himself had come out and said to a fan who asked him he'd being offered a deal. It was sometime after that late into the season we were told he had being offered another contract.
I have made no accusation or implied anything just saying I hope he knows what is happening as early as possible and that the HDM stated that the club were in negotiations. If that's now not the case fine, but why wouldn't the club tell us as they've signed up others and renewed contracts for many.
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| Quote ="DGM"It goes round and round in a perpetual cycle.
Make up a hypothetical scenario and bash the club/imply the club are at fault somewhere, then when people rightly pull him up on it and make counterpoints, switch to defensive mode and make claims of being attacked/posters making "unfounded accusations".
Mrs B came back with what was a fair post with lot's of good points - he didn't address them and instead made claims that unfounded accusations had been made against him, despite it clearly being implied in his original post as Mrs B points out.
It just antagonises other posters. Make your point and give your opinion, but don't cry like a baby when you get challenged on it.'"
lol, you're another with a chip that is accusing me of something I haven't said.
I've not implied anything, I've said what the HDM reported and what happened last year and hope that SM isn't left late into the season, how is that any implication or accusation at the club?
Do explain?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Again read what was written. THE Hull Daily Mail report a couple of months ago SAID the club were in negotiations, this is in the article from their paper. I've simply said I hope the club don't leave it too long so that he knows what's happening as there was lots of speculation last year with no word from the club even though Michaels himself had come out and said to a fan who asked him he'd being offered a deal. It was sometime after that late into the season we were told he had being offered aother conntract.
I have made no accusation or implied anything just saying I hope he knows what is happening as early as possible and that the HDM stated that the club were in negotiations. If that's now not the case why aren't the club telling us as they've signed up others and renewed contracts for many.'"
Maybe they're not telling because it's of f'k all importance with CC final and Super 8's going on (and, in honesty, it's nothing to do with "us" anyway)
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Maybe they're not telling because it's of f'k all importance with CC final and Super 8's going on (and, in honesty, it's nothing to do with "us" anyway)'"
Whatever
Didn't take long for any reasonable discussion about the players and club to be turned into another bitch-fest by the usual suspects over nothing.
How very typical
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Again read what was written. THE Hull Daily Mail report a couple of months ago SAID the club were in negotiations, this is in the article from their paper. I've simply said I hope the club don't leave it too long so that he knows what's happening as there was lots of speculation last year with no word from the club even though Michaels himself had come out and said to a fan who asked him he'd being offered a deal. It was sometime after that late into the season we were told he had being offered another contract.
I have made no accusation or implied anything just saying I hope he knows what is happening as early as possible and that the HDM stated that the club were in negotiations. If that's now not the case fine, but why wouldn't the club tell us as they've signed up others and renewed contracts for many.'"
Well, as ccs just posted you've been a bit selective on the media reports you're citing. We had all this outrage from you last year on the topic of Michaels renewal, calling it "disgraceful", "despicable" and "sh itty" amongst other imagined sleights against the lovely Stevie. In the end it all worked out fine for both parties without any drama at all beyond the imaginary fabrications on this forum. Perhaps the assumption could be a similarly mutually acceptable outcome this time. Of course it's the prerogative of the club and player to make announcements as and when they choose as custodians of the contractual position, apologies for stating the bleeding obvious.
i.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... &start=350
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I have made no accusation or implied anything just saying I hope he knows what is happening as early as possible and that the HDM stated that the club were in negotiations. If that's now not the case fine, but why wouldn't the club tell us as they've signed up others and renewed contracts for many.'"
Well, as ccs just posted you've been a bit selective on the media reports you're citing. We had all this outrage from you last year on the topic of Michaels renewal, calling it "disgraceful", "despicable" and "sh itty" amongst other imagined sleights against the lovely Stevie. In the end it all worked out fine for both parties without any drama at all beyond the imaginary fabrications on this forum. Perhaps the assumption could be a similarly mutually acceptable outcome this time. Of course it's the prerogative of the club and player to make announcements as and when they choose as custodians of the contractual position, apologies for stating the bleeding obvious.
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| I think this thread was about Gareth Ellis. Haven't seen the press Day stuff but apparently he said we're feeling more confident as a group this year. Hope he gets the performance from his team mates that his final Wembley appearance deserves.
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Don't know what happened to my post just referred to.
Here it is again....
Quote ="HDM"We reported last month that Hull are in talks with Steve Michaels about keeping him on at the KCOM next season, with League Express now stating that the two parties are close to a deal. We understand Michaels is far from a done deal, though, at FC.'"
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Don't know what happened to my post just referred to.
Here it is again....
Quote ="HDM"We reported last month that Hull are in talks with Steve Michaels about keeping him on at the KCOM next season, with League Express now stating that the two parties are close to a deal. We understand Michaels is far from a done deal, though, at FC.'"
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| Let's be honest Knockers two sources are the HDM and a mystery fan. He hasn't been offered a deal and doubt he ever was, he will have known about it a while ago and will have no problem getting himself a deal here if he wants it or in the lower leagues in Aus.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Let's be honest Knockers two sources are the HDM and a mystery fan. He hasn't been offered a deal and doubt he ever was, he will have known about it a while ago and will have no problem getting himself a deal here if he wants it or in the lower leagues in Aus.'"
Is he still subject to Police arrest in Australia or has all that been cleared up.
If not its likely he will be looking for a club here
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| Quote ="bonaire"Is he still subject to Police arrest in Australia or has all that been cleared up.
If not its likely he will be looking for a club here'"
Not sure but I get a feeling you're mate might be able to help us by givng us his expert opinion on the inner workings and mechanisms of the Australian judicial system.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Not sure but I get a feeling you're mate might be able to help us by givng us his expert opinion on the inner workings and mechanisms of the Australian judicial system.'"
Patton!!!! There's supposed to be an amnesty
Enjoy the weekend and any tight squeezes.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Is he still subject to Police arrest in Australia or has all that been cleared up.
If not its likely he will be looking for a club here'" That were about 8 individuals involved, and most of the cases were dropped, but I've never seen Michaels name mentioned.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Patton!!!! There's supposed to be an amnesty
Enjoy the weekend and any tight squeezes.'"
After talking to my Generals I am willing to let much needed supplies of food, drink and medicines into the ruins of Letchworth Garden City.
However, if we manage to retain the Challenge Cup and Mr Ellis is lifting that shiny trophy above his head, under the guidance of Mr Radford, come Saturday teatime, I may not be able to withhold the resumption of another full frontal assault next week.
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