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| After this good news, some are looking back and making comparisons with Gentle ? not really sure why ?
When PG came, he too was an untried first team coach like Radford. So a rookie too, who albeit had been working under one of the best around, so I felt that at last we had our man. But in the final analysis he didn't deliver. I was disappointed when he went as I liked the guy. But thats not enough is it.
He threatened on occasions to get us to play but it was just never consistently good enough. Wembley could have been his springboard but it ended up his trap door. As a first time coach his behind the scenes organisation and management were questioned by AP, and rightly so. The Huddersfield debacle was his final nail.
When LR came I was very surprised but prepared to give another Rookie a chance. His plan was about improving all things slowly, The culture of the Organisation, a new firmer, straight talking management style, recruitment of Key Personnel in Motu, offloading quickly those he believed not suited to his culture and quality standard.
The first 2 years for any Rookie are going to be difficult learning years, even more so when your carrying out root and branch change to a sleeping giant.
But my word is it now starting to bear fruit.
I believe we have the best young coach in SL. He has created a club model that will be self supporting. He has an outstanding recruitment record. He is on the cusp of creating the holy grail of a winning mentality, we are now equal 2nd in the league and playing a brand of rugby not seen here for many a year. I'm as excited about what I see now as when we brought in Farrar, Knocker, Sammy and Charlie. We've waited a long time and now we should will be able to knock on the trophy cabinet door for a few years to come.
A 3 year deal for Lee Radford is excellent news and will be celebrated in my house.
And from AP, a massive statement of confidence and continuity in what is happening at our great club.
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| Quote ="Uppo58"After this good news, some are looking back and making comparisons with Gentle ? not really sure why ?
When PG came, he too was an untried first team coach like Radford. So a rookie too, who albeit had been working under one of the best around, so I felt that at last we had our man. But in the final analysis he didn't deliver. I was disappointed when he went as I liked the guy. But thats not enough is it.
He threatened on occasions to get us to play but it was just never consistently good enough. Wembley could have been his springboard but it ended up his trap door. As a first time coach his behind the scenes organisation and management were questioned by AP, and rightly so. The Huddersfield debacle was his final nail.
When LR came I was very surprised but prepared to give another Rookie a chance. His plan was about improving all things slowly, The culture of the Organisation, a new firmer, straight talking management style, recruitment of Key Personnel in Motu, offloading quickly those he believed not suited to his culture and quality standard.
The first 2 years for any Rookie are going to be difficult learning years, even more so when your carrying out root and branch change to a sleeping giant.
But my word is it now starting to bear fruit.
I believe we have the best young coach in SL. He has created a club model that will be self supporting. He has an outstanding recruitment record. He is on the cusp of creating the holy grail of a winning mentality, we are now equal 2nd in the league and playing a brand of rugby not seen here for many a year. I'm as excited about what I see now as when we brought in Farrar, Knocker, Sammy and Charlie. We've waited a long time and now we should will be able to knock on the trophy cabinet door for a few years to come.
A 3 year deal for Lee Radford is excellent news and will be celebrated in my house.
And from AP, a massive statement of confidence and continuity in what is happening at our great club.'"
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| Can't argue there.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Can't argue there.'"
The usual conspiracy theorists are doing, though but.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"What you talking about?
I'm pretty sure I said in my post that Radford is the best coach in the league, why would it bug me that he's doing a great job? (answer that please), and he's not proving me wrong, I've tipped us for Silverware.
You've dropped a clanger there sunshine, or maybe you didn't understand and have jumped to the wrong conclusion.
When we win the title, this is what I'll sing
We are the champions, We are the champions
Radford is our king'"
To be fair to the Wizard, your post did come over as a sarcastic comment, I read it twice
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| Quote ="Armavinit"To be fair to the Wizard, your post did come over as a sarcastic comment, I read it twice
'" Not sure if you knew him, but there used to be a member on here called Standee, who constantly criticised Radford.
He used to call him (B)Radford, and used to always tell us members defending Radford that "It'll be jam tomorrow and that we accept mediocrity.
Now go back and read my post and tell me if you still think I'm being sarcastic about Radders, I was having a pop at the member Standee, where ever he may be.
To be fair to me, I just got a tirade of abuse by Wizard for championing Radford.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Not sure if you knew him, but there used to be a member on here called Standee, who constantly criticised Radford.
He used to call him (B)Radford, and used to always tell us members defending Radford that "It'll be jam tomorrow and that we except mediocrity.
Now go back and read my post and tell me if you still think I'm being sarcastic about Radders, I was having a pop at the member Standee, where ever he may be.
To be fair to me, I just got a tirade of abuse by Wizard for championing Radford.'"
Sorry but I did say it came over as sarcasm, I understood, after reading the post a second time that it wasn't, I assume, the Wizard did the same and reacted. By the way, conspiracy theorists would have it that Martin is back in the guise of Eastcoastfc??????
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Sorry but I did say it came over as sarcasm, I understood, after reading the post a second time that it wasn't, I assume, the Wizard did the same and reacted. By the way, conspiracy theorists would have it that Martin is back in the guise of Eastcoastfc??????
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Ok having read it again, I can sort of see where you're coming from, particularly the last part where I was quoting Standees saying's, It's probably just the way I writ it down, I do sometimes tend to end up writing in riddles.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Ok having read it again, I can sort of see where you're coming from, particularly the last part where I was quoting Standees saying's, It's probably just the way I writ it down, I do sometimes tend to end up writing in riddles.'"
No probs. By the way, I tipped us for a cheeky top four plus a good cup run. As Buzz Lightyear says, "to infinity and beyond".
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| Really good lengthy interview by Gollum with Radders on Humberside last night after the contract extension.announcement.
Spoke very well of where we were and where he wants us to be.
Committment and desire never been a problem with Lee.
A few of us on here have actually got that and been unwavering in our support.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"
A few of us on here have actually got that and been unwavering in our support.'"
That's a smaller group of people than men that have walked on the moon
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"That's a smaller group of people than men that have walked on the moon'"
No good getting your @rse splintered on a fence or blowing whichever way the gust desires.
Was always gonna take time, and still might.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"No good getting your @rse splintered on a fence or blowing whichever way the gust desires.
Was always gonna take time, and still might.'"
I am going to games now expecting rather than hoping for wins Haven't gone to games with that attitude for many years.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"No good getting your @rse splintered on a fence or blowing whichever way the gust desires.
Was always gonna take time, and still might.'"
Indeed, I may be many things but a fence sitter or changeling aren't 2 of them
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Indeed, I may be many things but a fence sitter or changeling aren't 2 of them'"
I can vouch for that.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I can vouch for that.'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You are rich agar and I claim my £5'"
[iquod erat demonstrandum[/i
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| I'm of a similar opinion to most on here. It's no real surprise that he's been given an extension as Pearson clearly believes in him. Like most I personally would have waited a little while longer to see how the season pans out and I would have been inclined to keep the extension to two rather than three years, but that is simply my own personal opinion.
The plus side of this announcement is that our plans are in place for (hopefully) moving forward over the course of the next couple of years with a stable set-up and structure. This should help in terms of recruitment, both on and off the field, an area in which we appear to be moving in the right direction once more after a number of underwhelming years.
I'm still not wholly converted to Lee as potentially the man to start fulfilling our long dormant potential, but I am encouraged with the progress that we clearly are making, both in terms of results and performance. That progress, incidentally, has essentially been happening since Easter last year. After the debacle of Good Friday 2015, I genuinely had fears about where we were heading, but since then there has been a steady improvement and the rate of that improvement appears, on the surface, to be steadily increasing as well.
After a shaky opening 14/15 months to his tenure, Radford appears to be steadily growing into the job (and that is without any real knowledge of changes he has instigated behind the scenes). He's done enough to deserve the chance to take the club further in my opinion. Even if Pearson had decided to make a change, who, realistically, could he bring in. Any change (merely for the sake of change) brings with it, it's own risk of disruption.
Either way, he's here, he's our head coach and he will be our head coach until at least 2018 in all probability, so we may as well get behind him and the team and let's hope the Fc rollercoaster has more ups than downs in the second half of this decade.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Really good lengthy interview by Gollum with Radders on Humberside last night after the contract extension.announcement.
Spoke very well of where we were and where he wants us to be.
Committment and desire never been a problem with Lee.
A few of us on here have actually got that and been unwavering in our support.'"
Anyone have a link to the interview??
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| God knows why people are mentioning Gentle. Both he and McRae [iwere[/i the deadwood. Bad decisions with team selection and picking favourites - overpaying on contracts and creating a culture of blame.
Radford works his backside off, shoulders the blame and has got us to the best position in years. Motu takes a large part of the kudos, but getting them to play is the coach's job.
We've done the double over one of the major title favourites and people whine. Go to Headingley.
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| Quote ="BP1"I'm of a similar opinion to most on here. It's no real surprise that he's been given an extension as Pearson clearly believes in him. Like most I personally would have waited a little while longer to see how the season pans out and I would have been inclined to keep the extension to two rather than three years, but that is simply my own personal opinion.
The plus side of this announcement is that our plans are in place for (hopefully) moving forward over the course of the next couple of years with a stable set-up and structure. This should help in terms of recruitment, both on and off the field, an area in which we appear to be moving in the right direction once more after a number of underwhelming years.
I'm still not wholly converted to Lee as potentially the man to start fulfilling our long dormant potential, but I am encouraged with the progress that we clearly are making, both in terms of results and performance. That progress, incidentally, has essentially been happening since Easter last year. After the debacle of Good Friday 2015, I genuinely had fears about where we were heading, but since then there has been a steady improvement and the rate of that improvement appears, on the surface, to be steadily increasing as well.
After a shaky opening 14/15 months to his tenure, Radford appears to be steadily growing into the job (and that is without any real knowledge of changes he has instigated behind the scenes). He's done enough to deserve the chance to take the club further in my opinion. Even if Pearson had decided to make a change, who, realistically, could he bring in. Any change (merely for the sake of change) brings with it, it's own risk of disruption.
Either way, he's here, he's our head coach and he will be our head coach until at least 2018 in all probability, so we may as well get behind him and the team and let's hope the Fc rollercoaster has more ups than downs in the second half of this decade.'"
Well said.
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| To use a market term I think there's a few trapped sellers on here when it comes to their attitude to Radford. Hopefully their positions will continue to unwind.
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| 3 year deal well deserved imo it was always going to happen was in talks from last season, 2 years was on but because of our form & players staying he got 3.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"To use a market term I think there's a few trapped sellers on here when it comes to their attitude to Radford. Hopefully their positions will continue to unwind.'"
What "attitude"? Everyone on here is okay with giving Radford an extension, however we still aren't assured of even top 4 as of this moment never mind actually won anything. Given Radford's previous poor performance as a coach spanning two years a new contract graduated relating to performance would have been a.good way to go given the timing and to ebsure we aren't left with a coach who might not be able to take us further than reaching the top4.
If he gets us there and we have a good showing in the cup then the performance related contract kicks in, if we win silverware then 3 years would be more than earned.
It's a logical approach (I'm not saying the only approach) and people saying it's too early or it's too long is not an "attitude". It's caution given what has happened previous, not just with Radford but with others including players, also that aside from a very good first half a season we've still an awful long way to go to becoming anything lkke the finished article.
You never respect other people's opinions that don't fall exactly into line with yours, you do it all the time often responding with hated comments and deliberately attempting to enflame threads.
Your"attitude" is far worse than people voicing an opinion, it's always you're with my opinion in totality or against me (and the club)!
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"What "attitude"? Everyone on here is okay with giving Radford an extension, however we still aren't assured of even top 4 as of this moment never mind actually won anything. Given Radford's previous poor performance as a coach spanning two years a new contract graduated relating to performance would have been a.good way to go given the timing and to ebsure we aren't left with a coach who might not be able to take us further than reaching the top4.
If he gets us there and we have a good showing in the cup then the performance related contract kicks in, if we win silverware then 3 years would be more than earned.
It's a logical approach (I'm not saying the only approach) and people saying it's too early or it's too long is not an "attitude". It's caution given what has happened previous, not just with Radford but with others including players, also that aside from a very good first half a season we've still an awful long way to go to becoming anything lkke the finished article.
You never respect other people's opinions that don't fall exactly into line with yours, you do it all the time often responding with hated comments and deliberately attempting to enflame threads.
Your"attitude" is far worse than people voicing an opinion, it's always you're with my opinion in totality or against me (and the club)!'"
Bonjour Monsieur Le Bumps,
As you'll know, performance related clauses are often written into contracts.
It's a valid point you raise, however it may well already be in there, so may be a spent argument.
Your "good way to go" suggestion appears to presume you know it isn't already written into the contract.
Is that a fact ?
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