Agree, under a different coach, I think he could be a lot better, wouldn't surprise me at all if he left us, and became a world beater at another sl club

Still think he is our best option at 7, could rankin play centre, he is quick and can find a gap, then Horne could slot in at 6 and add some experience.

Shaul
Crookes
Crooks
Rankin
Talanoa
Horne
Miller

I'd be amazed.

Yeah me too, think world beater is a bit of a stretch.

Yeah it was, but I bet he goes onto better things after leaving us, he's only 20, plenty of improvement left him yet

Can you tell me,which of these other POOR SCAPEGOATED half backs have gone on to bite us back on the arriss,when they have left the club???,because I can't remember any,funny that!!

The next SCAPEGOAT (Miller) will find his level when he's left,I don't foresee a future in professional rugby league (because he's not good enough),but that will be because??

I can't name one because they've usually retired after leaving, because of age or injury, hardly likely to come back and bite us! Head, dykes, long. I guess Seymour could of, but look at what we did to him. If I was quality half back, theys no chance I'd sign for us over other clubs, so unless we give a young kid a chance and really invest in them, the top quality half will never happen

Miller and Rankin play too wide from the play of the ball, nine times out of ten Westerman is first receiver and then onto Miller,Rankin. Our play of the ball is too slow and too lateral. We are trying the dummy runner plays but because of the above oppositions see it coming and sniff it out.
Are they good enough? Probably not. Rankin gets the ball where the fullback should be and Miller is surrounded by the time he receives. Neither dictates the play but the best half backs struggle if their pack is bullied as ours was yesterday and on other occasions this year!
They both need to find the way to dictate play or neither will make it as a half end of!

We could have done worse then signing Liam Finn IMO. Wonder if Sneyd will become available next season if Salford are after Green aswell now, might be worth enquiring.

PTB yesterday was so pedestrian. Could have got them offside loads of times with more urgency.

He probably will, but we don't have that time. If we had a decent 6 at the club it would be different, but we don't.

Miller is nearly 22 if he is to become good he should be showing signs by now, after all he is an Aussie rep.

Anybody ever thought that millers poor form could be radfords doing, leaving him out in the cold at the start of the season won't have done his confidence any good and we don't know what sort of encouragement/criticism radford gives him in private, radford may not be handling him very well.

Let's face no one covered themselves in glory last night so to blame miller is a bit out of order I don't see the point in dropping him for someone who isn't going to do any better, the season is finished for us lets just leave miller and rankin to create some sort of partnership then we may get some sort of form out of them.

1-No 6.
2-Radfords fault.

Anymore?????

I think the coach & the 17 man squad are all to blame hard to pin it on just 1 or 2 of them.

Lets face it, most of us put in front of an aggressive angry radford would them selves, so I can't imagine how a 20 year old kid from the other side of the world must feel, knowing the coach doesn't think much about him. I'm not saying millers the answer or the greatest player, just think he's out best option, and an arm around the shoulder and a bit of support from everyone would help

Who do we have at the club capable of developing a half back? I doubt our former back row/prop coach is capable of it

I doubt miller is capable of developing under any coach.

Exactly , people are raving about htw, and reece dean, but what will become of them under the current regime, would the fans coach, and Pearson, give these 2 time to develop. Proberly not

Miller wasn't great yesterday but he wasn't the worst player on the pitch and wasn't solely or even mainly responsible for what happened in the last 30 minutes.

At 16-0 we were cruising to a comfortable but not impressive win. We were making easy metres and Wakey were struggling to get out of their half. We weren't playing that well but we were playing better than them.

Then Crookes had a brain fart and lashed out in the tackle. Two yellow cards and what could have been a penalty to us became a penalty to them. They were immediately energised and started running riot, particularly down our left. Our defence was in a panic, we were missing tackles and they were offloading at will. Despite plenty of experienced players out there (Ellis, Houghton, Paea, Feka, Yeaman) there was no leadership at all. Paea in particular seemed to completely lose his head for a couple of minutes. As soon as they got it back to 16-10 I knew we would lose. It was Salford in the cup all over again.

Miller will no doubt be dropped for Friday, but he should not be the only one.

That's pretty much bob on that

Wonder if we'd be interested in Michael Witt again should Marshall join the Dragons.

I hear Dave Butler will be making his debut, as we're so short on numbers given Radford's "don't perform and you're dropped" mantra

Houghtons distribution is always slow, we never get a quick PTB from him. Surprised no other coach has tried to address this. Wakey were slow closing us down and a fast pair of hands would have killed them.

Just for the record.

According to SL website.

Miller missed 1 tackle despite having Kirmond running at him most of the game.

Ellis, Hadley and Feka all missed 3 each.