Nope - international players from other code(s) that haven't played RL b4 !

AP sdtated repeatedly he is OFF the cap completely.

He will play half the games this year & gradually improve - but will be solid from Day One. Line speed, wrestling & positional play will be a challenge but sure he will go well.

All part of the HULL psyche.

He's about 5'10/11" and 12st 11lb ish so he's more Damian Blanch/Aaron Murphy but lighter. He's lighter than Jason Crookes so certainly not a winger that has size or power in that sense. That's not necessarily a bad thing but he'll be defending against bigger taller men much of the time and generally the "fashion" has been for powerful wingers because of all the work needed in clearing the line.

You have not mentioned that their's some big mother fooking Union wingers. who Biggs would have been up against to.

Having watched him a few times there is 0 way he is in the 12 stone category! (Don't know where some of the heights and weights for players come from, i don't ever take them as certainty) eg Feka(never 6.1!!!!!!!!) He's pretty big and strong even in union terms.
He's a pretty built kid,and his strength and leg drive are great. Makes big metres after contact every time.

Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Having watched him a few times there is 0 way he is in the 12 stone category! (Don't know where some of the heights and weights for players come from, i don't ever take them as certainty) eg Feka(never 6.1!!!!!!!!) He's pretty big and strong even in union terms. He's a pretty built kid,and his strength and leg drive are great. Makes big metres after contact every time.'" It seems ChrisH could be correct www.bathrugby.com/team/first-fif ... /tom-biggs

Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Having watched him a few times there is 0 way he is in the 12 stone category! (Don't know where some of the heights and weights for players come from, i don't ever take them as certainty) eg Feka(never 6.1!!!!!!!!) He's pretty big and strong even in union terms. He's a pretty built kid,and his strength and leg drive are great. Makes big metres after contact every time.'" It seems ChrisH could be correct www.bathrugby.com/team/first-fif ... /tom-biggs

Quote ="Aldy"It seems ChrisH could be correct www.bathrugby.com/team/first-fif ... /tom-biggs'" Maybe right a few years ago. Saw this myself. Whilst looking it up ended up on a bath forum where fans were discussing how he is 'stacked' 'conditioned, big and fast' etc. Not usually words associated with 12 stone guys in a game where 16+stone guys are the norm. I never trust clubs stats. Our own are ridiculous. Got rich whiting at 100kilo but mikey Paea only at 104. In fact one of our smallest forwards (anyone met him in person? Absolute UNIT!!) also has feka at 122!! Even at his biggest would struggle to hit that, certainly no where near now!!!

Quote ="Aldy"It seems ChrisH could be correct www.bathrugby.com/team/first-fif ... /tom-biggs'" Maybe right a few years ago. Saw this myself. Whilst looking it up ended up on a bath forum where fans were discussing how he is 'stacked' 'conditioned, big and fast' etc. Not usually words associated with 12 stone guys in a game where 16+stone guys are the norm. I never trust clubs stats. Our own are ridiculous. Got rich whiting at 100kilo but mikey Paea only at 104. In fact one of our smallest forwards (anyone met him in person? Absolute UNIT!!) also has feka at 122!! Even at his biggest would struggle to hit that, certainly no where near now!!!

I've watched the grand prix all my life doesn't mean I can drive faster than Jensen button, the poster is making the point that rugby union is a totally different game tackle technique been one of the main differences along with play the balls, scrum positioning for a winger etc. etc. Biggs will need time to adjust but I still think he will make a very good rl player as long as he is given time.

How important is tackle technique in a winger? By time a winger usually tackles it means the main priority is to simply bring down the opposition down. If a forward in the middle, slowing the play of the ball etc more so. But it's in many areas still rugby with the same principles. His coach is an ex league man who'll I'd imagine would of applied many league defensive techniques in his coaching. Also biggs as said has watched league up close all his life. He'll know more than any the subtle differences he'll need to work on. If he didn't think he could id have thought he'd of stayed put and earned a good wage for an easier life! Can't imagine we'll be paying significantly more than what he'll be on now as a Saxon international.

but you're not racing cars already in another code are you?

It never fails to amaze me how many posters on here know more than our coaching staff.

I was just responding to a poster who implied that he was a big winger. He ain't. Have a look at some videos on that video site if you don't believe the stats. Potentially he could be very good , he reminds me in his style of Damien Blanch and there'd be not much wrong if he could play like him BUT he is not a big guy.
In respect of him coming up against big Onion backs and forwards , he will do but wingers are not required to run the ball out of their half like they have to in league , someone just boots the ball to the other end , and that's where size is perhaps more important.

But if you was a top international Indy car driver who watched the grand prix all your life would you be more confident of beating Jensen Button?

Ditto,,,But I still hope he turns out like Paul Sterling did, only time will tell if he his the right winger we are looking for?.

Because they get it right very time don't they? Have you seen the state of your recruitment for for the last 5 years?

Lets start the season positive and believe. We are Hull. We, for me, have a unproven coach at sl level. But a coach who will put the hours in, have respect from the players. On paper we have a decent team to get some good results. If Biggs isn't good enough he wont play.

Come on you hull.

Lets start the season positive and believe. We are Hull. We, for me, have a unproven coach at sl level. But a coach who will put the hours in, have respect from the players. On paper we have a decent team to get some good results. If Biggs isn't good enough he wont play.

Come on you hull.

however dodgy some of our signings may have been we have never ever signed willie mason

I am in two minds about Biggs. On the one hand he is a Hull lad, he's got talent and he seems keen. On the other hand he went to Hymers.

So did my Mrs.

Can she play on the wing?

tom biggs is playing for bath in the amlin cup right now along with kyle eastbound. He has just scored (going to the video ref for a forward pass :S )

Try for Biggs on 2 minutes

What a poor game always stop start! No wonder he wants away from union....how this game gets the crowds in I will never know.

Puts his body on the line & getting through some work pretty impressed with him.