Thats without Horne, Yeaman, Bowden, Pitts, Mcdonnell and Crookes.

Certainly getting there.

Still think we will sign another forward, probably after the world cup.

And we have 5.

Mcdonnell
Biggs
Miller
DJ
Paea

So 2 spaces left, one quota, (2 if Paea is a quota player).

Sorry mis read you, why do you think we only have 1 quota spot?

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You are only allowed 5 quota players?

We have

Miller
DJ
Paea
Mcdonnell

Is this right?

I never thought of that, just presumed they'd got rid of the quota thing for next season and was just having non fed.

No idea where i've got that from.

Paea might well have a Tongan passport.
The non-fed and overseas quota do indeed run in paralell Dr Cooper. Just to add another layer of complexity.

Now I come to think of it... How Irish is McDonnell? And Miller has an aunt living near Hull, doesn't he? Possibly meaning British grandparents?

Strictly speaking, you could add Sullivan and Raynor to that list.

And Howard Firth - Blondie Mark 1

RE: Wingers from Union

Was always a big fan of Kevin James myself!

Prenderville anyone ?

Paper teams win paper cups.

I don't see that team as much stronger than the one this year, which bent over.

Certainly too many left over from the capitulation against Huddersfield.

7 of those guys didn't play against Huddersfield. Two of the guys who didn't play are in the dream team.

nowt like a good negative spin on things lol, i remember firth so so quick, there say the quickest of the lot,pity he couldnt sort his defense out it was awful,and taffy was tops,

and?

Hull were mediocre across the whole season not just in one game.

me either, there needs to be a serious attitude change by nearly all named in that 17 to even compete next season, as last year we was pants for 3/4 of the season

At least he'll be able to take a high ball

Yet we were one of 3 teams to reach a final and won as many playoff games as Leeds, Saints and Huddersfield.

Is the side I posted good enough to win Superleague? Probably not, but it is better than we had this time last year and who knows what effect a new coaching set up will have? We have some really promising kids coming through, who is to say we won't unearth a new Lineham or Shaul?

As a comparison this is the side that took the field against Leeds last year (I have included Ellis and omitted Johnson since he was all set to play at half past 7).

McDonnel
Crookes
Arundel
Yeaman
Briscoe
Holdsworth
Seymour
Pitts
Houghton
Lynch
Galea
Ellis
Westerman

Whiting
Heremaia
O'Meley
Green

Better all over the field imo.

Jesus wept

I don't mean every position. I mean that in general our backs look stronger, our forwards look marginally stronger and our halves are potentially stronger but certainly no weaker (depends how Miller develops).

Do you disagree?

I disagree with everything you say.

You have lost an international winger and not replaced him with the same quality.

You have lost an international second row forward and not replaced him with the same quality.

Your halves are as you say, are only potentially stronger, no improvement and its more of the same.

You have replaced like for like regarding Paea and O'Meley.

I will get plenty of stick but so far I can't see where you think your squad has improved.

Much rather have Tuson over Tickle who's hardly a international player IMO. Actually glad he's left apart from his kicking.

The backs are much weaker at all but TB is class, Biggs will be good for us and will suprise a lot of people.

Forwards are better balanced although I'm not convinced by the Feka signing and I still expect another prop to come in.

Like I said the main thing about next seasons squad is it's more balanced.

More balanced? You have practically replaced like for like in terms of positions of players leaving, as it stands its a very similar squad as this seasons.

I assume the international back row is Tickle? He was garbage last year and Tuson is a big improvement on 2013 Tickle imo.

Paea is a better player than O'Meley. Ogre was great for us, but was past his sell by date. Again, only my opinion. Paleaasina is an unknown quantity but he certainly adds size and aggression. Lynch is a loss but at the end of the day he was just a work horse. We have plenty of those.

In the backs we unearthed 3 of the best young players in Superleague, Shaul, Crooks and Lineham. Yes Briscoe is a loss, but as long as Biggs isn't a total liability I think that overall out back division is better, mainly due to the emergence and improvement of those three.

It's all down to opinions, but I am happy with side we are putting together.