We'll have to hope that we can but it's asking a lot to throw young forwards into SL when they've had nothing but academy rugby.

As I say, the top teams have done it in recent years so why can't we? Now, it seems, is their chance.

Everyone has to start somewhere. And I remember Hull throwing in Horne, Cooke and King when times were bad and we had no cash left to spend and it didn't do them any harm.

and in recent times Houghton's come on and played in a very physically demanding position and made that position his own.

Don't think saints think like that when they decided to throw any of their kids in to the 1st team.

But, but, but Warrington do it

why are some being so negative before the team has even played together.for gods sake give em a chance to rebuild our squad n gel a winning side.half of being a successful side is the ability to bring through youth players and ease pressure on the cap.you will never buy a 17 man team to win the trophies and stay in cap in a single close season

I am not concerned about Person not delivering a winning team, because he has to. He has invested too much in the club to fail. He knows he needs to increase the gate receipts to get a decent return on his investment, and that will only happen with success on the field.

we got alot of quality play makers next year so im hopeful we will have a shot at the top four next season. Im just concerned on the right flank tbh

It's alright everyone saying things like "everybody wanted us to use the youngsters", but the way we're going we'll have to rely on them more than we should, and in volume aswell.
I'm sorry, but either Pearson lied about the old regime not spending the cap or McRae is lying saying we've not got much left.

For me i will see next season as a year we have to rebuild and improve from this season....better style of rugby and a higher finish.....anyone whos expecting a grandfinal/challenge cup final appearance/win are in a dream land...talks of lyon,chase etc are a good laf but we need to be realisic...top 6 next year would be a start.

2012 - Consolidation
2013 - No excuse for top 4.

Something doesn't add up for me, either. Though I would hesitate to use the word 'lie'. Pearson may have been referring to salary cap usage over several years, perhaps we were near cap last year but that wasn't the case every year. And McRae's definition of 'near' the cap could include cushions needed if we have to bring in someone unexpectedly next year, plus the perhaps significant wage of the last signing?

it will be intresting to see who the qota spot will be used on like i say peter gentle was given that quota spot to go and get a overseas back now that wont be a centre now you would presume and all the talk has been about improving the right side i woudnt be suprised to see a winger come in but could it be used on a backrower/prop theres some good overseas player occ for example sika manu

I don't know about "consolidation" next season. We haven't got anything to consolidate apart from four seasons of $hite.

Bringing over a winger with him would be complete and utter madness. We need a prop and a backrower.(and a right centre)

we did need a top centre but weve just signed a centre in martin and like i said gentle was given the quota spot to go and get a outside back

If he comes back with any quota player, it is likely to be a backrower I think. Maybe Tickle will spend some time in the front row next season.

Is it safe now to conclude that Whiting will be a new back rower?

The Jodie Broughton rumour is encouraging (if there is any truth in it) but IMO it is much more important to have quality in the centres than on the wing.

Put a world class player in the centre spot and almost any mug can look good on his wing.

It has been a general opinion for a long time that he could make a good LF but now we have Westerman, that's probably unlikely. I don't think that he is big enough to play as a SR runner of the ball.

mentioned him a bit ago that would be a good signing and a improvment on sharp would need a transfer fee but im sure something could be sorted and l would also use the quota on a backrow/prop sika manu occ i think ?

Those would be two very good signings but IMO it would also leave us a bit short in the front row. (Depending on where Gentle sees Tickle playing)

Can anyone seriously see Tickle not been 13 next year?

If we do sign anyone else I reckon it will be someone on here no one has mentioned . All the people mentioned on here I don't see coming - broughton , Manu etc

Would like to think that, but condidering our so called top signings are with us for minimum 2 years, where is the room going to come from to sign the 'champion players' that Bomber talks about?
Unless AP gets his hand in his pocket and adopts a bit of Wires creative acounting then top 4 you can forget.
Very disapointed with the Martin signing, being a long time since i can remember being as deflated by a new signing. How AP thinks the season passes will fly off the shelves is beyond me.