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| The Radford injury came from a clash of heads with Ben Cross
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| Quote ="Hutchie"No your not, if that was sliding forward and elbow is on ground amd player has a hand on, if player then reaches out its a second effort.
As far as i could tell Tomkins elbow was on ground and a Hull player had a hand on , so tackle complete for me.'"
Agreed, if had slid over then fine. He raised his ball carrying arm off the floor and reached over the try line. No way we would have been given that try.
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| you can debate it all night but it was given End of story,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,let it ride..............simple fact Long Westerman and Fitz in the team and we win. Injuries and depth of squad costs us big style this season. Lets just hope it gets put right .
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Looked a clear try to me, the tackler had fallen off.'"
Agreed Paul nothing wrong with Tompkins 1st try. If you look at anything long enough you will start to to convince yourself that things are wrong with it, watch it in real time his momentum never stops it's all one movement.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Thought Phelps had another pretty bad game in defence again tonight. His positioning was all over the place.'"
Game by game I can see why the club has decided to bring in someone else for next season, he's not quite good enough.
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| Quote ="hullbg"tomkins try was fine, ball carrying arm never hit the deck
Obst try the emphasis is on the attacking player to withdraw from the line, thus Lauaki was obstructing.'"
bull ,watch it on sky super slow ,ball carrying arm does touch the ground ,and Lauaki does not have to move wigans player making wrong choice trying to run through a brick wall ,obst never ran round Lauaki ,if this is the case then all dummy runners are now obstructing
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| Quote ="ELI"simple fact Long Westerman and Fitz in the team and we win. .'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Deluded'"
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| phelps' positional play is poor. Doesn't look like someone who has played full back that much
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Momentum never stopped, it was the least controversial decision of the night I would say,'"
Can't agree with that at all.
Him stretching his arm is a separate movement he wasn't entitled to make as he was tackled the second he hit the deck (landed on the ball carrying arm). Him spinning over is one movement, yes. But not the reach over.
Had he landed on his front and reached over would have made it clear as day, yet it was the exact same infringement.
Makes you wonder what the VR was looking for...
The Obst try was clear obstruction though. You can't run towards your players and use them as a shield unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Agreed Paul nothing wrong with Tompkins 1st try. If you look at anything long enough you will start to to convince yourself that things are wrong with it, watch it in real time his momentum never stops it's all one movement.'"
I watched it in real time, I was there! And I said from the second he scored it was DM.
He stretched his arm out to score. That stretch is the second movement. He was already tackled, so had no right to make that stretch. It's a completely separate movement. If it was all one movement he'd have landed on his front with the ball by his chest.
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| Quote ="dano"bull ,watch it on sky super slow ,ball carrying arm does touch the ground ,and Lauaki does not have to move wigans player making wrong choice trying to run through a brick wall ,obst never ran round Lauaki ,if this is the case then all dummy runners are now obstructing
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Ball carrying arm does touch the ground however momentum is not stopped and the tackle is not completed.
The obstruction was given because the dummy runner stopped in the defensive line which he is not permitted to do. If he had carried on going forward another 5 yards it would have been fine. Harsh IMO but them's the rules.
PS. Good hard game from you lot last night. Has you not hit the self destruct button for 10 mins in the first half you'd have probably won it.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"The full length Richards try was a head high shot on Radders, hence the broken jaw, 12 point swing there for a start!!'"
It was a clash of heads watch the video.
Sam Tomkins try should have been an eight point try, Jordan Turner comes in with his feet two seconds after Tomkins scores.
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| Quote ="hullbg"tomkins try was fine, ball carrying arm never hit the deck
Obst try the emphasis is on the attacking player to withdraw from the line, thus Lauaki was obstructing.'"
but Lauiki was stood still, he never moved into anybodys way. i thought a few decisions went against Hull last night, but you expect that against the top sides IMO.
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| Joking apart,but dont you think "its the refs fault" is wearing a bit thin,thought you played well last night but how can you blame the ref for the loss of posession or turners brain storm.?
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"but Lauiki was stood still, he never moved into anybodys way. i thought a few decisions went against Hull last night, but you expect that against the top sides IMO.'"
That was the problem by him standing still in the attacking line he causes the obstruction. If he had retreated or continued to run forward it would have been fine.
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| Quote ="number 6"was it turner? if so my mistake, still cost us 6 points regardless'"
No offence, but if you're mixing up Whiting and Turner, people may not trust your view of the game entirely.
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| Luaki was stood still most of the time he was on the field !!
IF we have any hope of improvement next year he needs trading in for a major upgrade !!
Utter waste of a quota spot, ran hard'ish for about three carries, aimlessly wandered across the gain line without fooling any defenders, oh and cost us a try.
Usual numty penalty in front of posts.
He got flattened once when his usual stop at the gain line approach wasn't matched by a committed defender.
If we keep him that will give good indication of our ambition !
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| Quote ="Chris28"No offence, but if you're mixing up Whiting and Turner, people may not trust your view of the game entirely.
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no offence, but it is easy to get a name wrong when you have your head in your hands whilst your own players are throwing the ball about on their own try line!
didnt realise you was the font of all rugby knowledge and never made a mistake!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I watched it in real time, I was there! And I said from the second he scored it was DM.
He stretched his arm out to score. That stretch is the second movement. He was already tackled, so had no right to make that stretch. It's a completely separate movement. If it was all one movement he'd have landed on his front with the ball by his chest.'"
It was a try that's why it was awarded.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
Sam Tomkins try should have been an eight point try, '"
Hello Clarkey.
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| Quote ="number 6"
didnt realise you was the font of all rugby knowledge and never made a mistake!'"
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| Quote ="number 6"no offence, but it is easy to get a name wrong when you have your head in your hands whilst your own players are throwing the ball about on their own try line!
didnt realise you was the font of all rugby knowledge and never made a mistake!'"
Sense of humour bypass alert!
Agree about the head in hands bit though
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| Quote ="Hutchie"little badge below his name should have give that away
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glad someone realises
Telling the difference between a black guy and a white guy is about as far as it goes though
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sam Tomkins try should have been an eight point try, Jordan Turner comes in with his feet two seconds after Tomkins scores.'"
Deary me.
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