I don't know what luck is because there is no such thing. Events are not random

But that beneficiary puts themselves in the position to be beneficiary by choice somewhere along the line. Things do happen which may be out of a person's control at a given point in time but the concept of luck is laughable

We will be lucky if this doesnt get locked for going OT

Time for bed me thinks. Going right over my head!!


But is Longy lucky or not?


Surely cant be, or his bets would always pay out!!

Happy Easter .

Think you may have to ask your learning disabilities nurse to give you a hand posting on here honey...hope you had a nice easter and never ate all your eggs at once mind.

Eh? What on earth were you thinking here, then?

sometimes cause and effect can come back to bite you!

That does not have to mean ‘luck’ or randomness exists.

It may be seen as luck and randomness, simply because it is way beyond man’s inability to understand and/or explain.

Or just bad luck.

There then must be at least two actions for there to be a beneficiary.

You might not be able to control action 'a' but you may be able to predict action 'a'
You can control action 'b', so then the consequence for the beneficiary would be different.

What you're describing is purely an unlikely event happening. No matter how unlikely the event, if you are put in the scenario enough times then it will happen. it's probability, not luck. If it is probable that something may happen, no matter how low that probability is, then how can it possibly be luck when it does? it's just a possible outcome happening

Fair play, that was before I watched professor Brian Cox and he explained the concept of infinite universesicon_lol.gif

Indeed, but I think kosh is struggling to understand. Unusual for a former quantum physicist

I'm not the one struggling to understand stuff.

Let's all be friends today.

It's quite a simple concept. Every decision we make, either consciously or subconsciously has a number of potential outcomes. Sometimes a small number which is easy for people to understand, or possibly a near infinite number, which is a more difficult thing to get your head around.

The fact is that if you do something which has even a tiny chance of happening (say 1 in a billion), then it may still happen and no matter how improbable that outcome is then when it happens it has nothing to do with luck, but is merely an improbable event occuring

What seems to be confusing people is the definition of luck and it's relation to probability.
I am in no way suggesting that luck replaces mathematical probability and if you're arguing against a belief in luck as a force which makes thing happen then I am on your side because that's simply not true.
However in the context of luck simply being an expression of an occurrence of an unlikely event or sequence of events then it is certainly valid and someone encountering an improbable event can be classed as lucky (or unlucky) to have encountered them.
If it makes you feel nice superior then feel free to replace the phrase "luck" with "having an unlikely even out of their control benefit/hamper them" if you like, it's up to you but I'll keep using the abbreviated term in common usage, safe in the knowledge that I understand the luck fairy had nothing to do with the extreme edges of the normal distribution curve

What about Lucky David Baildon then?

I've had enough I'm going on a lucky strike

We always are,its just like family arguments.

luck before you leap

Precisely what I've been attempting to explain.