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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"As I say, it's easy. I also usually find it's easy to blame newcomers at Hull.
However people would still rather us play Lyne, who has not impressed at all for me. Yes he's young, but so are Arundel, Evans, Charnley and Foster.'"
I love the fact that Castleford are happy to play Arundel at centre too, rather than feeling the need to play a future centre on the wing for their early years.
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| I think it's fair to question Sharps reading of the game - away at wigan, when we had a man extra, he was badly out of position twice, there was simply no need for him to come inside. At Huddesfield we were over ran down that side and i thought he could have done better for Hodgsons try, to be fair to him, Tickle had a mare that game too down that side.
Against Cas, i would rather bow to Chase's skill and vision, he'd clocked that Sharp had been centre field and had the nous to chip on first tacle to his side whilst he was ot of position, brilliant half back play. Sharp didnt cover himself in glory though.
I'm not saying drop Sharp but i would be interested in seeing Jack Briscoe get a run.
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| Quote ="lummy"I think it's fair to question Sharps reading of the game - away at wigan, when we had a man extra, he was badly out of position twice, there was simply no need for him to come inside. At Huddesfield we were over ran down that side and i thought he could have done better for Hodgsons try, to be fair to him, Tickle had a mare that game too down that side.
Against Cas, i would rather bow to Chase's skill and vision, he'd clocked that Sharp had been centre field and had the nous to chip on first tacle to his side whilst he was ot of position, brilliant half back play. Sharp didnt cover himself in glory though.
I'm not saying drop Sharp but i would be interested in seeing Jack Briscoe get a run.'"
Long came out of the line last Friday, watch it again.
Not drop Sharp but you want Jack Briscoe? So what do you want?
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| It would be ridiculous to drop a player for a couple of errors - it would utterly destory his confidence and he has generally been a really good player for us this season imo.
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| Quote ="fc casual"Some people need to grasp the concept that Sharp is been left exposed on numerous occasions through no fault of his own. Our right side defence is poor and has been for years, I'm sure if stats were available then it would show our right side leaks the most points and I think we will continue to do so until we sign an out and out right centre instead of playing utility players there.
Imo sharp hasn't done much wrong, sure he has made some poor options but to contemplete dropping him is laughable, you don't hear the shouts for briscoe and whiting who have made poor decisions over the past few weeks.'"
Whilst the lad isnt totally blameless for a couple of gaffs to drop him would be counter productive on so many levels, think back to when Tom was learning his trade, did he get dropped ?? no you persevere and give the player the confidence to keep going till they solve % of the issues in hand on the training paddock.
Sharp is an outstanding young player with a massive future still very much learning the game AND playing very well apart from being caught ball watching on ocassion...
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| I've been very disappointed with Sharp ever since he got his self tackled into touch against Rovers on the first tackle. He looks very green, weak under the high ball,lacking in confidence and defensively he lacks positional sense. I do think he needs a run in the 20's to regain some form. Players should be picked on form.
However I don't think Reece is ready yet but he is still very young.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"But he hasnt played that well though as he? Granted his centre has left him high and dry a few times but he also hasnt done himslef any favours with some of his half hearted attempts at catching balls and tackling. I wouldnt go as far as saying hes a scapegoat but hes a weak link in the side at present imo.'"
He has made one or two errors, the winning try at Wigan he was at fault for and he dropped an easy kick against Cas that led to a try. The problem is fans keep thinking he is out of position but he is iften left out on a limb by Whiting and the defenders inside him. He takes the ball up often and well and when he's had scoring chances he has taken them.
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"Some fans are pointing out that hes playing poorly and it stands out in games more than other players...the majority of fans that i have been sat near in the games that i have been to have commented at some point about sharps performances....hardly being made a scapegoat just an observation..'"
But he is not playing poorly, he has made the odd error as mentioned above. So has every other player tbh.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"But he is not playing poorly, he has made the odd error as mentioned above. So has every other player tbh.'"
they forget all the other things he does so well , proper grafter that will only get better ...
Like Fitz hasnt made mistakes or ogre or Tom..of course they all do however on the wings it can look glaring when down the middle mistakes get covered... we have a quality young wing on both edges now that will both only grow and grow with time
mind you this forum needs a scapegoat each year , sharpy keep your head down!!!
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| Im normally one of his bigger critics but he wasnt too bad against Cas. Knock ons from kicks can happen to anyone and he had no chance on their second.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"But he is not playing poorly, he has made the odd error as mentioned above. So has every other player tbh.'"
I have to disagree about him playing poorly and hes made errors in almost every game iv seen this year...i dont get all this scapegoat stuff aswell...there has been threads about how poor other players have been including dowes,horne,long,lauaki etc...
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"I have to disagree about him playing poorly and hes made errors in almost every game iv seen this year...i dont get all this scapegoat stuff aswell...there has been threads about how poor other players have been including dowes,horne,long,lauaki etc...'"
Sharp is an easy target for criticism at Hull because a) he's new, b) he's young, c) he's a winger. Plenty of players have made mistakes, but Sharp has consistently been at the brunt of it when a lot is not solely down to him.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Sharp is an easy target for criticism at Hull because a) he's new, b) he's young, c) he's a winger. Plenty of players have made mistakes, but Sharp has consistently been at the brunt of it when a lot is not solely down to him.'"
Longs not young,new or a winger but hes had a fair few critics on this board...it feels as though some on here are being abit protective over sharp for some reason....who has ever said that us being poor is all solely down to him?? I think youl find alot of fans say that would be mr agar.
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"Longs not young,new or a winger but hes had a fair few critics on this board...it feels as though some on here are being abit protective over sharp for some reason....who has ever said that us being poor is all solely down to him?? I think youl find alot of fans say that would be mr agar.'"
He was new to the club when he got his stick, which has been ongoing until now.
Some have talked about our comparatively weak right side defence on here as if it were all Sharp's fault.
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| WILL SHARP ..will cost your more games .. than games you will win because of him....THINK THE LAD SHITE to be honest
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"He was new to the club when he got his stick, which has been ongoing until now.
Some have talked about our comparatively weak right side defence on here as if it were all Sharp's fault.'"
I know im going around in circles but the point im making is like iv previously stated hes not the only one to get stick on here...dowes,horne,long,lauaki to name a few.....he certainly isnt being made a scapegoat by me and when it comes to me slating players im the first that hopes im proved wrong but up to now i am underwhelmed by will sharp.
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| Ijust wondered if any of you who know such agreat deal about coaching and reffing have ever thought of taking up the sport, the pay is very very good.
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| Quote ="jampot"Ijust wondered if any of you who know such agreat deal about coaching and reffing have ever thought of taking up the sport, the pay is very very good.'"
Only ten minutes after another 'contributor' posts on another thread: Quote ="Dibs XIII"Can't say I would mate, wouldn't want to be as bad as Child, I know my limitations unlike you, who obviously thinks could do a better job than Agar.
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Another cretin thinks the 'you couldn't do any better line' is worth adopting as their own.
If the main criteria for discussing/debating anything was 'could you do better yourself?', then 90% of the conversation in the world wouldn't take place.
The fact you don't realise that singles you out as a real halfwit.
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Only ten minutes after another 'contributor' posts on another thread: Another cretin thinks the 'you couldn't do any better line' is worth adopting as their line.
If the main criteria for discussing/debating anything was 'could you do better yourself?', then 90% of the conversation in the world wouldn't take place.
The fact you don't realise that singles you out as a real halfwit.'"
=#FF0000There is no need to be abusive!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"=#FF0000There is no need to be abusive!'"
Ok, sorry for calling him a halfwit, however accurate it may be.
Seriously though, what goes through people's heads to come on a discussion forum and start saying 'oh well could you do any better?'.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Ok, sorry for calling him a halfwit, however accurate it may be.
Seriously though, what goes through people's heads to come on a discussion forum and start saying 'oh well could you do any better?'.'"
I always find Quartwit a more useful term!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He has made one or two errors, the winning try at Wigan he was at fault for and he dropped an easy kick against Cas that led to a try. The problem is fans keep thinking he is out of position but he is iften left out on a limb by Whiting and the defenders inside him. He takes the ball up often and well and when he's had scoring chances he has taken them.'"
Some people say that Whiting reads the game better than anyone in the team.It certainly does'nt look like it when he is leaving his winger exposed.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Some people say that Whiting reads the game better than anyone in the team.It certainly does'nt look like it when he is leaving his winger exposed.'"
Was thinking that yesterday actually but didn't want to say anything for fear of Whiting related repercussions. I thought back to 2005 when Blacklock got loads of stick, who was his centre for most of the season.
FWIW Whiting is probably hung out to dry by Tickle inside of him who in turn is hung out to dry by Horne or Long inside of him. The Blame will ultimately stop with the hooker in the middle.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Some people say that Whiting reads the game better than anyone in the team.It certainly does'nt look like it when he is leaving his winger exposed.'"
Maybe Whitings best posiution is a ball handling back row forward like Peter Sharp tried turning him into after all
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Maybe Whitings best posiution is a ball handling back row forward like Peter Sharp tried turning him into after all
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Amen! Anyone with eyes can tell that Rich Whiting is not a centre. The only position where he'll flourish is at 13. He'll do a job to the best of his ability and pace where ever he plays but it's looking increasingly that he'll never get the chance in his proper position. I think he's had a rough deal at FC , he always seems to be scrambling to get a contract for one year but does everything he's asked to do without sulking regardless of how it affects him. Compare the way he's treated with some others.
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