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| Quote ="B0NES"If he's hardly getting any game time under Agar , He wont be a that big of a loss.'"
Well you are correct ..but most of us can see he would be a big loss due to his ability/potential
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| Moa said couple of months ago to me he wasn't sure he was staying because they have no ambition !
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| Think Moa will stay.
I'd keep Burnett on a one year deal and play him at prop as Dowes replacement.
FB depends on how Phelpes goes, if not new quota FB needed.
I've done some research and Pryce, Bosc and Ratchford are all OCC, so we could look to one of these and then sign a number 7 from the NRL.
If can sign one of these, we could maybe keep Lauaki, depending on his form, if not he will have to go so we can get in two overseas halfbacks.
I also look to sign Scruton to replace Fitzgibbon.
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| Burnett isn't a prop, which is why he's doing well at Quins playing in his proper position, the second row.
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| I'd keep Burnett well away from the front row.
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| Burnett is certianly big enough to play prop, I just feel he would get more of a chance there than in the backrow, where they is lots of competition.
I think Burnett good form is more to do with getting some gametime than the position he is playing.
If we where to sign Scruton or another prop (I would keep an eye on Paul Johnson who is onloan at Wakey)
Then we would have
Moa
O Meley
Scruton
Radford
Burnett (to cover both positions)
Manu
Tickle
Westerman
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Cunningham
Kent
Also a few players like Turner and Whiting to cover LF.
Getting the right number 7 is the key to our recruitment next year.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Burnett is certianly big enough to play prop, I just feel he would get more of a chance there than in the backrow, where they is lots of competition.
I think Burnett good form is more to do with getting some gametime than the position he is playing.
If we where to sign Scruton or another prop (I would keep an eye on Paul Johnson who is onloan at Wakey)
Then we would have
Moa
O Meley
Scruton
Radford
Burnett (to cover both positions)
Manu
Tickle
Westerman
Green
Cunningham
Kent
Also a few players like Turner and Whiting to cover LF.
Getting the right number 7 is the key to our recruitment next year.'"
Where THEY is lots of competition...............Surely you mean "THERE"?
If we WHERE to sign Scruton............. do you mean "WERE" to sign Sruton?
FFS who taught you English?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No chance. He's not happy at Hull'"
He told my mate he loves it here.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Wasn't just aimed at you, Chris, just in general it is said on here a lot but I'm sure it doesn't really exist!
I think Moa will be one of our first extensions to be made this season.'"
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/9403893.stm[/url
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IMO it can only apply at clubs which don't spend anywhere near the cap. Otherwise how can you know you won't break the cap and have to stop playing the said player!!
Surely you wouldn't have to lodge the full 'potential' salary with the RFL as this would be pointless.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He told my mate he loves it here.'"
You haven't got any mates
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/9403893.stm[/url
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IMO it can only apply at clubs which don't spend anywhere near the cap. Otherwise how can you know you won't break the cap and have to stop playing the said player!!
Surely you wouldn't have to lodge the full 'potential' salary with the RFL as this would be pointless.'"
Might be a useful bench player. Maybe we should sign him again
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| For me I would give Horney a year deal on a reduced wage, heard he is on 105k a year so offer him 55 to 60 and I'm sure he would take it but thats if he has a good run of games this season.
Moa has to stay on 2 or 3 year deal. Offer Burnett another year this season at London will do him good. Let Lauaki go flattered to decieve for me, Dowes also can go we have better younger props at the club. I think Fitz will retire myself but if O'Meley leaves then I would offer him a year at prop.
Unfortunatley I don't think Washbrook is good enough and hasn't progressed in the last two years so I think he will go to.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Burnett is certianly big enough to play prop, I just feel he would get more of a chance there than in the backrow, where they is lots of competition.
I think Burnett good form is more to do with getting some gametime than the position he is playing.'"
Disagree. Last year Burnett didn't look good enough at prop for the academy, just about no impact whatsoever. If he can't shine at that level in the position then I don't see how he has a hope in hell against the bigger blokes in SL.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Disagree. Last year Burnett didn't look good enough at prop for the academy, just about no impact whatsoever. If he can't shine at that level in the position then I don't see how he has a hope in hell against the bigger blokes in SL.'"
But he has been doing well at Quins ?
Maybe its the coach
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Disagree. Last year Burnett didn't look good enough at prop for the academy, just about no impact whatsoever. If he can't shine at that level in the position then I don't see how he has a hope in hell against the bigger blokes in SL.'"
Agreed. I should have thought Dowes would have taught us about playing props who are too small and have no impact.
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| As for our squad overall, I think we're now in as much of a transition period as when Agar took over TBH, probably another cull needed. I'd be looking at getting rid of the following at the earliest opportunity and introducing fresh blood: Horne, Long, Dowes, Obst. I'd also see how the following do this year before handing out extensions: Fitzgibbon, Washbrook, Lauaki, Burnett. Turner's another who needs to improve to earn his keep. I'll wait until I see how Phelps goes before I make up my mind.
My big worry is that we may soon start to see the players we do want to keep hold of wanting out.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Agreed. I should have thought Dowes would have taught us about playing props who are too small and have no impact.'"
It's not necesarily about size though. Maiava was massive and still got outperformed by the smaller kids around him.
And TBF to Dowes, he's never been a particularly big prop, but he has been a good one. It's only over the last 18 months he's started to fade IMO. He certainly had a much better defence than Burnett without giving away as many penalties (another thing that's gone wrong with him now, though).
I just don't think from what I've seen that Burnett has the game to play prop.
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| Moa and Ogre we need to keep as they are our best props(And getting Moa to sign a new deal is very important we cannot lose him)
Lauki would be devastating if he was used right but his defence looks very weak and would get rid on that basis and that he uses a quota spot or non fed spot thingy .
Washbrook would keep if he is cheap and tbf has been messed around playing in his wrong position.
Fitz ..probably would get rid or try and get him in the coaching setup as I dont want him stopping westerman playing at thirteen another coach would probably play fits at prop or 2nd row.
R.Horne All depends on fitness to me but I do agree he would be on less money as he is a risky gamble these days
Phelps Will be a good buy and would keep if he puts in a good season and keeps himself fit.
Whiting,Yemo,Briscoe and Sharp are all keepers in my opinion.
Dowes ...I would get rid of. Doesnt offer much and his defense doesnt seem as good these days.
Long...Has to go very injury prone these days and takes up alot of the salary cap
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/9403893.stm[/url
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IMO it can only apply at clubs which don't spend anywhere near the cap. Otherwise how can you know you won't break the cap and have to stop playing the said player!!
Surely you wouldn't have to lodge the full 'potential' salary with the RFL as this would be pointless.'"
Well that's me told
But it isn't a very common circumstance and something we shouldn't be looking at with any player IMO.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"As for our squad overall, I think we're now in as much of a transition period as when Agar took over TBH, probably another cull needed. I'd be looking at getting rid of the following at the earliest opportunity and introducing fresh blood: Horne, Long, Dowes, Obst. I'd also see how the following do this year before handing out extensions: Fitzgibbon, Washbrook, Lauaki, Burnett. Turner's another who needs to improve to earn his keep. I'll wait until I see how Phelps goes before I make up my mind.
My big worry is that we may soon start to see the players we do want to keep hold of wanting out.'"
If you were Tom Briscoe would you want to stay at Hull?
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| Quote ="Dave K."For a minute there I thought this was a rugby forum, fook off to an English lesson forum if you want to talk about spelling.
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=#FF0000 No thanks - PM icon_rolleyes.gif Go back to school and learn some basic 9 year old's English.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Retard !
Go back to school and learn some basic 9 year old's English.'"
No one cares mate, bore off or talk RL.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If you were Tom Briscoe would you want to stay at Hull?'"
I wouldn't stop there. I think there are 7 or 8 of our players who can do better than Hull.
I've said on here before that if you take club loyalty and location out of it, which of us local fans would genuinely find Hull an attractive proposition to sign for if given other SL options? If you're any good there must be at least half a dozen better clubs to be at, maybe more.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
Go back to school and learn some basic 9 year old's English.'"
I would guess that you are a 40 year old virgin, get a life, you must have better things to do that slag people's spelling off.
Also your Avatar looks like a 4 year old's has done it.
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