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| Quote ="Roverswall"My point was that it seems some clubs are banking on a new ground getting them a franchise as that will be enough in otherwords they hope their stadium plans will smokescreen the rest of their franchise applications.
Like you said those looking at it logically can see straight through it but it seems that the clubs we are talking about have almost convinced themselves that a stadium will put everything right.'"
I think it's actually more of a case of they know that they're shafted [iwithout [/ia new stadium.
All the clubs have the criteria against which they'll be judged, and all of them are aware that shiny stadia weren't enough for Widnes and Leigh last time around. Building a new stadium is a necessity but I'm pretty sure that nobody at the clubs concerned believes that it will be enough on it's own.
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| Wakey got the nod
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Wakey got the nod'"
Great news for them, good luck to them I say.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Great news for them, good luck to them I say.'"
Agree
Its nice to see this, unlike the Leeds board where they want Wakey publicly killed
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| Wakeys success makes it all very intersting now though because all clubs meet the criteria on grounds, but some make only the basic criteria, some still have outstanding works that they promised at the last time of granting franchises that have not been completed, and some hav'nt even started!
It will be interesing in March if Widnes come up which I believe they have to, because they meet everything needed and as far as stadiums are concerned theirs is better than a couple in the Super league even if Salford, Cas and Wakey get new ones!
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| lets be rid of the french,what do we owe them.either them or[flogging a dead horse harlequins.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Wakey got the nod'" Technically the haven't they have been given 'mindful to approve'.
There is a key diffrence.
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| if all these new grounds come to fruition,that will leave bradford and rovers,with grounds that haven't been improved.headingley is looking a bit shabby compared to others,but they are safe obviously!!
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"if all these new grounds come to fruition,that will leave bradford and rovers,with grounds that haven't been improved.headingley is looking a bit shabby compared to others,but they are safe obviously!!'"
We're not on a warning, but. And CP has been improved - the East stand extension(s) being the most obvious examples. Plus the North Stand, for which permission but not full funding has been secured (see also Cas), was described by HKR's new cheif executive as viable again in September. 'Viable' is a long way short of 'happening', but at least we know efforts are ongoing.
Still, we can't be complacent - can't see a problem this time, but 2015 we could be under real pressure. Same goes for Bradford, IMO.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"We're not on a warning, but. And CP has been improved - the East stand extension(s) being the most obvious examples. Plus the North Stand, for which permission but not full funding has been secured (see also Cas), was described by HKR's new cheif executive as viable again in September. 'Viable' is a long way short of 'happening', but at least we know efforts are ongoing.
Still, we can't be complacent - can't see a problem this time, but 2015 we could be under real pressure. Same goes for Bradford, IMO.'"
tbh,bradford have had big plans for odsal for years!!!! they would be better off sharing valley parade again!!!odsal,for some unknown reason,i find enjoyable!!perhaps it's cos i like the traditional old grounds-cas,wakey,salford etc.
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| whoever goes it will be sad for their fans.id let salford or wakey go if pushed, but just wish they had decided to expand to 16 instead but the other clubs would never have agreed to adding two more clubs to share the £s out to.
wakey havent recruited well have they like they know something.
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| Quote ="Eddie Marks"whoever goes it will be sad for their fans.id let salford or wakey go if pushed, but just wish they had decided to expand to 16 instead but the other clubs would never have agreed to adding two more clubs to share the £s out to.
wakey havent recruited well have they like they know something.'"
but at the same time they have got rid of the older players,and replaced them with younger players.i still like kevin penny,but i do agree some of the other signings dont jump out at you!!!
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| arent most of em 1 year deals as well
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think it's actually more of a case of they know that they're shafted [iwithout [/ia new stadium.
All the clubs have the criteria against which they'll be judged, and all of them are aware that shiny stadia weren't enough for Widnes and Leigh last time around. Building a new stadium is a necessity but I'm pretty sure that nobody at the clubs concerned believes that it will be enough on it's own.'" I do hope you are right.
Next June is going to be very interesting thats for sure.
Like I said on the VT though I have a sneaking feeling that the RFL already know who they dont want.
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| Wakefield said they was going to have a new ground when they came up and played some games at Barnsley.....Believe it when i see it even though they have got permission.......
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Wakefield said they was going to have a new ground when they came up and played some games at Barnsley.....Believe it when i see it even though they have got permission.......'"
Didnt Rovers also promise a developed ground with a 10k capacity by then?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Didnt Rovers also promise a developed ground with a 10k capacity by then?
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Good thing thats what we've got then
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Good thing thats what we've got then
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really good facilities for a capacity 10,200 crowd then.......
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Good thing thats what we've got then
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Much needed too, 53 home Super League/Play off games and literally 2x 10,000+ crowds.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Much needed too, 53 home Super League/Play off games and literally 2x 10,000+ crowds.'"
Just as well they didn't bother with the 14k capacity they promised would be in place by Feb 2010 then.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Its quiet on here so heres something to have a think about.
Friday is without doubt a landmark day in the history of rugby League in Wakefield when the Wildcats fans will await an announcement outside the town hall at 11-00am as to whether Wakey have got outline planning permission for thie new ground adjacent the M62. If they get the green light everything is in place to have a new ground completed by Feb. 2012.
If they don't get it they are sunk, and will I believe be for the chop but all indicators point to them getting the permission granted or at the very least a public enquiry being called for. However I think it will go through so if it does, with Salford starting work on their ground next month, all the funding and permissions in place for Cas's new home with work scheduled to start next feb. and Widnes an automatic to come up as they meet all the criteria needed, who will go down? Because according to the Super League clubs the league will definately stay at 14, and if any club meets the necessary criteria then they must come up, but someone has to drop out, and it has to be in their words of a couple of years ago 'the least equipped club to meet the Franchise requirements set down for Super League membership'. Will in fact a team with a new ground still go down? Discuss
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I Hope both Wakefield and Castleford stay alive - who goes out I really dont know.
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| So based on 2010 clubs and their grounds what do we have?
HFC best ground in SL
Wigan best Football ground in SL
Wire decent new ground
Giants second best football ground in SL
Leeds best traditional ground though best stand half closed.
Saints nice new ground.
Cas nice new ground.
Crusaders cr4@ football ground. In Wales
Quins decent RU ground in south
Bulls bomb crater but big and better than team 14.
Wakey new stadium.
Salford new stadium.
Catalans best ground in France.
Rovers ????????? Shizzen hole !!!!!!
Is that what you are getting at Wilf ? Bye bye the poorest team in SL with the poorest ground. Though it is relatively modern if you think about when they moved in. Though the old CP was better.
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| Quote ="DC W1"So based on 2010 clubs and their grounds what do we have?
HFC best ground in SL
Wigan best Football ground in SL
Wire decent new ground
Giants second best football ground in SL
Leeds best traditional ground though best stand half closed.
Saints nice new ground.
Cas nice new ground.
Crusaders cr4@ football ground. In Wales
Quins decent RU ground in south
Bulls bomb crater but big and better than team 14.
Wakey new stadium.
Salford new stadium.
Catalans best ground in France.
Rovers ????????? Shizzen hole !!!!!!
Is that what you are getting at Wilf ? Bye bye the poorest team in SL with the poorest ground. Though it is relatively modern if you think about when they moved in. Though the old CP was better.'"
What nonsense.
Nothing wrong with Crusaders ground IMO.
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| Quote ="DC W1"So based on 2010 clubs and their grounds what do we have?
HFC best ground in SL
Wigan best Football ground in SL
Wire decent new ground
Giants second best football ground in SL
Leeds best traditional ground though best stand half closed.
Saints nice new ground.
Cas nice new ground.
Crusaders cr4@ football ground. In Wales
Quins decent RU ground in south
Bulls bomb crater but big and better than team 14.
Wakey new stadium.
Salford new stadium.
Catalans best ground in France.
Rovers ????????? Shizzen hole !!!!!!
Is that what you are getting at Wilf ? Bye bye the poorest team in SL with the poorest ground. Though it is relatively modern if you think about when they moved in. Though the old CP was better.'"
Nope, just a reasonable question and some good debate its certainly interesting now Wakey have the go ahead, there will be a bit of twitching in Cas I believe. Obviously Salford have their concerns despite their new ground being the most advanced of the three. They think they can maybe sign there way to a Franchise. I just think it is really interesting, obviously its a grade c club that will go because that was always the parameters set out, grades may have gone this time around but the old ones will still be pertinent this time.
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| Wakefield haven't got the go ahead at all
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