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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Yup, and if i was him i'd be banging on Rules' door to get an improved deal on longer terms after this year. The kids worth a 4-year deal IMO.'"
Agreed. If his form next year is anything like this year we need to get him signed up for a long time.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I would respectfully disagree. I think he showed enough last season to indicate that he would be worth at least two years.'"
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I have not mentioned salary at all, I was saying that we have had 2 players who were offered 1 year deals then all of a sudden Rovers 'declare interest' or a story is fabricated by the HDM and next thing we are offering a 2 year deal.'" maybe lee spoke with rovers and was not intrested with what they offered or the part he would play there? It was only last night that rule said there was an offer on the table for him and didnt state how long it was open for.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"No no no no no no no
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when will people stop being deluded fools and realise he is not a player we should have!!!!!!
we need to aim much higher'"
Due to salary cap and import quota restrictions, we cannot aim higher.
What happens if Long is out for a prolonged time again??
Webster could deputise at 7 and 9 , this could release Berrigan to play 3,6 or 13.
For mine, it would be a mistake, to only have 1 player in the squad, who is a ball player.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The thing is, how many do? Totally agree that there's is much value in players of the Radford/Dowes mould. Our problem in recent years has not been that we've had such players, just the amount we've had. The balance is beginning to be redressed IMO.'" but alot of "fans" seem to knock him or say his is a "plodder" really gets my goat. Hes a true pro and good at what he does
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"maybe lee spoke with rovers and was not intrested with what they offered or the part he would play there? It was only last night that rule said there was an offer on the table for him and didnt state how long it was open for.'"
Doesn't change the fact that Hull originally offered a single year and he's now signed a contract for 2. So the deal on offer has been changed.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"maybe lee spoke with rovers and was not intrested with what they offered or the part he would play there? It was only last night that rule said there was an offer on the table for him and didnt state how long it was open for.'"
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Doesn't change the fact that Hull originally offered a single year and he's now signed a contract for 2. So the deal on offer has been changed.'" i hadnt realised he was only offered a 1 year to start. Never knew the club stated that
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| Great tackler and shuts down the middle, does a lot of work and I am happy he has signed. If we can replace Dowes if in fact he leaves with someone "we" all think is better then we will have done a good bit of business.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"i hadnt realised he was only offered a 1 year to start. Never knew the club stated that'"
Rule was quoted as saying that Dowes had been made an offer for 2011 (in the singular), and that the same applied for Radford.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"agree with Wilf, unless his body miraculously repairs itself , i think he will become a bit part in the second term of his new contract !!.. however given what is available for the same money he is a steal!!'"
This is the thing, most fans won't know what money he is on and what the value really is as they won't know what other players wanted to come. The clubs have to manage the cap and I trust them to do that. The way our pack is set up now means Lee has to do less minutes which may also help him to get through another two years.Also some of his wages can be offset by the coaching he is doing.
It's good business for us I would not have wanted to lose Dowes, Radford and Yak in one fell swoop. If we can bring in a replacement for Yak/Dowes then I would be happy with that.
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| If Moa wanted to return to the NRL they'd be no shortage of suitors.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"This is the thing, most fans won't know what money he is on and what the value really is as they won't know what other players wanted to come. The clubs have to manage the cap and I trust them to do that. The way our pack is set up now means Lee has to do less minutes which may also help him to get through another two years.Also some of his wages can be offset by the coaching he is doing.
It's good business for us I would not have wanted to lose Dowes, Radford and Yak in one fell swoop. If we can bring in a replacement for Yak/Dowes then I would be happy with that.'"
Also it was showed with dobson. If fc have a price for someones worth they stick with it. I dont see any reason why this would change for radford
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| Poor. Clubs been held to ransome IMO, he's a plodder now so will only be worse in 2 years. Would rather keep him than Dowes for next year but for 2 years I'd have preferred Dowes (who i think is a poor player). Very disappointing, thought we was getting somewhere obviously not.
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| BlackNwhite wrote:maybe lee spoke with rovers and was not intrested with what they offered or the part he would play there? It was only last night that rule said there was an offer on the table for him and didnt state how long it was open for.
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Not bang on at all. Lee was offered a very good deal by Rovers and would have been an integral part of the team on a 2 year contract and was on the verge of signing it. The only reason he spoke to them was when Hull only offered him a 1 year contract. Hull then extended his offer to two years on similar terms at the last minute so he stayed.
So your once again speaking %£*! that you know nothing about and just pretend to be in the know.
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| ETV - Similar terms to Rovers on similar terms to our one year deal? If he's on a "very good deal" then we've well and truly messed up IMO.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"ETV - Similar terms to Rovers on similar terms to our one year deal? If he's on a "very good deal" then we've well and truly messed up IMO.'"
Less than Rovers I believe but obviously get an okay wedge from his testimonial to make up for it. He wanted to stay at Hull from day one but anyone in their right mind would take a 2 year offer over a 1 year in any job. He'll still be going strong in 2 years, he never stops training and injuries hardly affect him. Good signing for you IMO there's no way he'll end like Long, Sculthorpe etc .
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| Shame this isn't another of Expro's Red Herrings.
Worst bit of recruitment news so far. Radford shouldn't be anywhere near our squad next year let alone 2012!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"This is the thing, most fans won't know what money he is on and what the value really is as they won't know what other players wanted to come. The clubs have to manage the cap and I trust them to do that. The way our pack is set up now means Lee has to do less minutes which may also help him to get through another two years.Also some of his wages can be offset by the coaching he is doing.
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If he plays in Super League his full salary counts on the cap.
I'm glad he has re-signed, the two year deal is a surprise though. If as looks likely we have missed out on Fielden then this is an important signing as available props are a bit thin on the ground.
Radders has an excellent apperarance record probably the best at the club after Dowes (ironically).
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A couple of the missed games weren't necessarily down to injuries either
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| Quote ="Howlin' Coyote"Shame this isn't another of Expro's Red Herrings.
Worst bit of recruitment news so far. Radford shouldn't be anywhere near our squad next year let alone 2012!'"
Bit harsh
He was definitely worth another year and i'm sure he can bring something on the coaching front. Also if true and he had a better offer from Rovers, shown some loyalty, especially if he's taken a pay cut.
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| Not sure about 2 years myself, would have been happier with one, but not depressed by it either. I think also what is fantastic, is the news he is coming into the coaching set up. That can only be a big plus IMO.
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| Poor signing.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"If he plays in Super League his full salary counts on the cap.
I'm glad he has re-signed, the two year deal is a surprise though. If as looks likely we have missed out on Fielden then this is an important signing as available props are a bit thin on the ground.
Radders has an excellent apperarance record probably the best at the club after Dowes (ironically).
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| Quote ="GJJ 79"Bit harsh
He was definitely worth another year and i'm sure he can bring something on the coaching front. Also if true and he had a better offer from Rovers, shown some loyalty, especially if he's taken a pay cut.'"
Not in my opinion.
As for the question of Loyalty, it could also be said that he has used the interest from Rovers as leverage to gain the second year of his new contract so I don't buy it.
I don't know whether he will bring something to the coaching front or not but I don't believe that this should play a part in negotiating a playing contact. If they like him as a coach then employ him as one.
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| Quote ="Howlin' Coyote"Not in my opinion.
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Trying to get the best deal for himself and his family? Disgraceful act of disloyalty, eh
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